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    Well, this probably doesn't bode well for smaller manufacturers.

    http://nypost.com/2016/12/04/consume...d-hotel-rates/
    Turntable: - 1. Fairchild 750/OMA slate plinth
    2. Analog Engineering AE-2008 MinusK support.
    Tonearm: 1. Schroder Custom
    2. Schick 12"
    3. Abis SA-1
    Cartridge: Miyajima Kansui and Premium BE Mono
    PhonoPre: AprilSound LR, EMIA Strain Gauge, EMIA silver SUT
    CD: Wadia 860x
    Server: Innuos Zen Mini Mk3
    DAC: Computer Audio Design 1543 Mk2
    Preamp: Bent Audio TAP-X w silver autoformers
    Amplifier: AprilSound SET50 monoblocks
    Speaker: Pioneer PAX-30C

  • #2
    Wow, I've been to Guangzhou Audio Show (biggest Chinese audio show) recently and the rate in a hotel where the show was - a 5star hotel was $100/night at the show time...
    Source: Kuzma XL DC/4Point 14 inch/CAR60; Phono: Zanden 1200 Signature; Tuner: Magnum Dynalab MD-108T Signature; Line Stage: Zanden 3000 Mk2; Power amp: Lamm 1.2 Reference; Speakers: AlsyVox Botticelli; Grounding: Tripoint Troy Elite NG; Cable system: Cardas Clear Beyond; Stands: Finite Elemente Master Reference & Master Reference Heavy Duty; Power strip: Cardas Nautilus; Power filter: P.I Audo: BUSS Depot; Acoustics treatment: Svanå Miljöteknik AB (SMT);

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    • #3
      Nail on the coffin. It's as if the organizers want it to fail. Sad.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by JackD201 View Post
        Nail on the coffin. It's as if the organizers want it to fail. Sad.
        Maybe for home audiophile, but the show has always been about consumers electronics, TV, cell phones , home theater, techy stuff for cars to home automation and as it seems of late CAR stuff is getting larger each year. I missed last year and went the couple years before with a dealer friend in Daytona but was it interesting the noted highlights of the 2016 show taken from the CES site was: 4K Blu-ray, DTS Play-Fi, DTS:X and ELAC Uni-Fi UB5 speakers. In 2015 it was WIRELESS

        So much for the audiophile stuff.

        Chris
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        • MylesBAstor
          MylesBAstor commented
          Editing a comment
          Actually I think one of the biggest growing areas is fitness tech gear. Y-U-G-E.

      • #5
        Originally posted by Beaur View Post
        Well, this probably doesn't bode well for smaller manufacturers.

        http://nypost.com/2016/12/04/consume...d-hotel-rates/
        That's stupid rates alright--you can get good clean rooms for 1/10th of that--(even less)in the Hotel/Motel/ Apartments on Paradise which runs parallel to the Strip--just short stroll to

        venues in the brisk dry LV winter sunshine!

        Soc

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        • #6
          Originally posted by JackD201 View Post
          Nail on the coffin. It's as if the organizers want it to fail. Sad.
          Ha! Last I heard the room rates were around $400 a night at the Venetian.

          CES has been circling the drain for years. That's why I gave up on CES three years ago. Munich is now the show.

          That said, think that seems the worst case example. Sure they jack up room rates 2-4X normal for CES but sure one can find something cheaper.
          Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
          Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
          ________________________________________

          -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
          -Goldmund Telos 300 stereo amp
          -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
          -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
          -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
          -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
          -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
          -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
          -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
          -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.1+ platforms.

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          • #7
            Originally posted by Beaur View Post
            Well, this probably doesn't bode well for smaller manufacturers.

            http://nypost.com/2016/12/04/consume...d-hotel-rates/
            Think smaller manufacturers fled CES years ago. Or at least since The Show closed its doors at The Flamingo.

            With the advent of other technologies for companies to communicate with dealers and distributors, other shows, etc., CES is a relic of the past. Sadly.
            Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
            Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
            ________________________________________

            -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
            -Goldmund Telos 300 stereo amp
            -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
            -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
            -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
            -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
            -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
            -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
            -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
            -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.1+ platforms.

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            • #8
              Assuming that CES was the "business" show in the US, has RMAF taken up that function? Will another show pick up the slack? or are shows not needed for the business portion of the Hi-End any more?
              Turntable: - 1. Fairchild 750/OMA slate plinth
              2. Analog Engineering AE-2008 MinusK support.
              Tonearm: 1. Schroder Custom
              2. Schick 12"
              3. Abis SA-1
              Cartridge: Miyajima Kansui and Premium BE Mono
              PhonoPre: AprilSound LR, EMIA Strain Gauge, EMIA silver SUT
              CD: Wadia 860x
              Server: Innuos Zen Mini Mk3
              DAC: Computer Audio Design 1543 Mk2
              Preamp: Bent Audio TAP-X w silver autoformers
              Amplifier: AprilSound SET50 monoblocks
              Speaker: Pioneer PAX-30C

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              • #9
                Originally posted by Beaur View Post
                Assuming that CES was the "business" show in the US, has RMAF taken up that function? Will another show pick up the slack? or are shows not needed for the business portion of the Hi-End any more?
                Munich.
                Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                ________________________________________

                -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                -Goldmund Telos 300 stereo amp
                -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
                -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.1+ platforms.

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                • Beaur
                  Beaur commented
                  Editing a comment
                  Munich and either Shanghai or Tokyo seem to be the ones on the International scene. Does the US need a major business-oriented show or can manufacturers use the current regional show format.
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