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  • Donald Fagen - The Nightfly: Mobile Fidelity UltraDisc 1-Step, UD1S 2-003


    Click image for larger version  Name:	 Views:	3 Size:	96.3 KB ID:	68531My UD1S copies arrived yesterday. So, last night I did the logical thing: a vertical test between the original 1982 USA Warner Bros. release (9 23696-1), the 1983 Mobile Fidelity MFSL release (MFSL 1-120), and the just-released Mobile Fidelity UltraDisc 1-Step release (UD1S 2-003). While the original USA Warner pressing is really quite good, and compares quite favorably to the MoFi MFSL pressing, save for areas like surface noise, bass impact, and general clarity, this new UD1S is far-and-away much better than either of them.

    The first thing I noted, right from the opening note, was much greater dynamic expressiveness. Further, this record is remarkably quiet, and that velvety quietness serves to further enhanced dynamic contrasts, both micro and macro. Bass extension, impact, and pitch definition are markedly better than either the US Warner or the MoFi MFSL release. Mids are more focused, with more clarity, and a remarkable sense of vibrancy, imparting a much more “live” sense to this release than to either of the other releases. The air, delicacy, attack, and decay on cymbals is so much more accurate and superior to either other of the pressings that it is staggering… Really!

    Resolution and transparence are exceptional, totally off the charts! This LP really approaches the sound of a master tape!

    Staging and imaging are greatly improved, with clearly greater depth and more accurate and intricate layering. The sense of the spatial relationships, as well as the sizes and shapes of the images are so correct, you feel as though you could almost get up and walk around "in" the recording.

    Both human and instrumental voices are more distinctly focused in their location, and have both more body and much richer texture. The backing vocalists take on much more individuality, sounding much more like a group of individual voices singing together than a homogeneity of voices.

    Overall, the energy, vibrancy, tonal richness, pace and drive from this pressing is irresistible. This LP gets my complete and unreserved endorsement… I hope you have already ordered yours, because they were nearly sold out at 11:00 AM yesterday morning...



    Last edited by theaudioanalyst; 10-21-2017, 09:50 PM.
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  • #2
    Let's keep in mind this was an early digital recording and while it does sound "good" for an early digital recording, it still shows its provenance. Listen to Ruby Baby and tell me you can't hear that this is a digital recording. I own the original version and have not felt the need to seek out other copies. I'm a little surprised that MoFi didn't release strictly analog recordings for the UltraDisc series, but they will obviously issue what will sell in the marketplace.

    I'm glad you are enjoying your new version.
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    • #3
      My two copies were shipped yesterday. According to FedEx they arrive next Tuesday...I'm looking forward to it.

      What I don't understand about he original poster is this line:

      "and compares quite favorably to the MoFi MFSL pressing, save for areas like surface noise, bass impact, and general clarity". I hope that was a joke.

      If not...how can anyone say one pressing compares favorably except for "surface noise, bass impact and general clarity"? It like comparing a premium steak and a McDonalds hamburger and finding them comparable except for taste, presentation and indigestion. What is the point?

      If it was a joke, well done.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by EdAInWestOC View Post
        My two copies were shipped yesterday. According to FedEx they arrive next Tuesday...I'm looking forward to it.

        What I don't understand about he original poster is this line:

        "and compares quite favorably to the MoFi MFSL pressing, save for areas like surface noise, bass impact, and general clarity". I hope that was a joke.

        If not...how can anyone say one pressing compares favorably except for "surface noise, bass impact and general clarity"? It like comparing a premium steak and a McDonalds hamburger and finding them comparable except for taste, presentation and indigestion. What is the point?

        If it was a joke, well done.
        Well, I don't think he intended it as a joke so therefore what you said is a bit harsh, even by my standards. The main thing is that he loves his new Ultra copy of Nightfly and at the end of the day, that's all that matters. I have no complaints about surface noise, bass impact, or general clarity with my original pressing of Nightfly. My only complaint is that it is an early digital recording and it wears its roots.
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        • rockitman
          rockitman commented
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          I plan to compare the original press with my Ultra Disc. My bet, it won't even be close...the Ultra Disk will smoke the original (gut feeling only)

        • Rob
          Rob commented
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          how about a comparo between the digital file used to cut the lacquer and the UD pressing... I love the album, I played it to death back in the day when the first in-dash CD head units for the car came out. def my go to demo disc back then.

        • EdAInWestOC
          EdAInWestOC commented
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          If I came off too harsh I apologize. It does seem a bit strange.

      • #5
        Click image for larger version  Name:	 Views:	1 Size:	3.25 MB ID:	68568 Tonight’s face off...Ultra Disk versus original Japan Mofi (1983) I don’t have the 1982 first issue by Warner Bros.
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        • #6
          No contest



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          • rockitman
            rockitman commented
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            Is that the first issue Warner Bros. Randy ?

          • RandyRobinson
            RandyRobinson commented
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            Yes, Masterdisk, RL.

        • #7
          I have the original LP and the DVD-Audio of The Nightfly. Love the album. But it strikes me as a very odd choice for this kind of “ultra” LP.

          That said...if it came out on reel to reel...I’d probably buy it
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          • #8
            I am more than happy with my original German masterdisk RL pressing

            personally I find getting every 9 mins, 9 mins, 11mins and 7 minutes a total PITA for a single album. the 45rpm should sound better regardless.

            a better comparison would have been original single album version vs the so-called one step remaster on 33 1/3rd.

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            • #9
              I thought that I what I meant with the line, "While the original USA Warner pressing is really quite good, and compares quite favorably to the MoFi MFSL pressing, save for areas like surface noise, bass impact, and general clarity, this new UD1S is far-and-away much better than either of them." was pretty clear. My apologies if it was somehow confusing... I was saying that the ORIGINAL 1982 US Warner pressing was really very good - all things being equal, and that the 1983 MoFi was quieter, had better bass transients, and less hash and grain... Does that make more sense now? It was no joke...
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              • EdAInWestOC
                EdAInWestOC commented
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                No sweat...I apologize if I was too harsh in my response. It wasn't a good day and I shouldn't have written anything.

              • Bill Hart
                Bill Hart commented
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                I have not listened to this record so have no chihuahua in this enchilada, but some of the standard Warner issues were fabulous, green label, through Burbank street scene and even some of the cream/small WB logo'd ones. RLJ's debut is outstanding on the standard issue. The old MoFi has better surfaces and the EQ gives it a little more heft that some may like-- this is one of the old MoFi's that in my estimation withstood the test of time. Warner had a great roster during the hard rock era. Too bad those first couple Steely Dan records were on ABC.

            • #10
              Comparing my 1983 Japan MoFi, JVC super vinyl profile, the One-Step is not any quieter in the record surface noise dept...both about as good as it gets. The mixes seem similar too with cymbals which are imo to loud in the mix and show this titles digitalness so to speak. The ultimate fidelity is better with the one step, in particular the bass. The one-step is a significantly louder recording by +3-5dB I estimate. Very noticeable difference when you play the two different versions back to back. Fun excercise.
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              • #11
                I would be curious if anybody could I.D. the broadcast turntable & tonearm on the cover shot ...

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                • theaudioanalyst
                  theaudioanalyst commented
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                  Probably a vintage '50's RCA or Western Electric 16", with a Para-Flux A-16 arm. The mic is an RCA 77DX... Those are Chesterfield Kings, and he has one of his favorite albums, "Sonny Rollins and the Contemporary Leaders," from 1958 on the table in front of him. ;-)

              • #12
                I wonder how the sound of the LP would compare to hearing the direct sound from the output of the DAC used for the cutting?
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              • #13
                Mine should be here early this week, along with the Layla Sessions. Hopefully, my TT will be back up and running by the time it gets here. Let me know when you guys are doing all these comparisons, I will put mine on, pour some whiskey and be enjoying mine at the same time.

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                • #14
                  Truth be told never heard of the album lol. Own SACD ,s of Asia n Groucho. Been to two of his concerts boring and could not wait to leave.
                  I know three of the songs on this album. I'll play it on tidal wonder if its Mqa as well. I love looking at what is spinning it always yields new music to play. Please don't take my comments as sarcasm it's not to be its just honesty of my choices.
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                  • #15
                    Originally posted by Alrainbow View Post
                    Truth be told never heard of the album lol. Own SACD ,s of Asia n Groucho. Been to two of his concerts boring and could not wait to leave.
                    I know three of the songs on this album. I'll play it on tidal wonder if its Mqa as well. I love looking at what is spinning it always yields new music to play. Please don't take my comments as sarcasm it's not to be its just honesty of my choices.
                    It's a winner in Surround Sound SACD. Recommended.
                    Available at Amazon for $28 new.

                    The Nightfly in SACD Surround Sound

                    https://www.amazon.com/Nightfly-Dona.../dp/B005804N4Q

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