Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Looking for good performances/recordings of Petrushka

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Looking for good performances/recordings of Petrushka

    I like Stravinsky's Petrushka but don't know a thing about the various Lps that were made of it. What are some good ones, originals or reissues?
    Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver Interconnects

  • #2
    The one I'm listening to now is with Muti and Philadelphia on angel from '82 and its not bad but its early digital master. I also have one on RCA living stereo but don't recall the director/orchestra at the moment but its pretty good.
    Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver Interconnects

    Comment


    • #3
      There is a classic Decca Petrushka by Ansermet - one of the first real hi-fi recordings, the result of the military work they did in WWII. It came out around 1946 on 78's. I think it is available on CD. Ansermet did a stereo version released in '58 which has been reissued on vinyl and should also be on CD.

      Ansermet conducted the Ballets Russes in Paris in the teens and twenties and conducted many premieres of Stravinsky's compositions, although not Petrushka, which Pierre Monteux premiered, also with the Ballets Russes. Monteux did a recording with the Boston Symphony in 1959 on RCA.

      Larry

      Analog- VPIClassic3-3DArm,Lyra Skala+MiyajimaZeroMono, 2xAmpex ATR-102,Otari MX5050B2,Merrill Trident Master Tape Pre,Herron VTPH-2A
      Dig Rip-Pyramix,IzotopeRX3Adv,Mykerinos,PacMicroModel2
      Dig Play-mchNADAC, LampiHorizon, Roon, HQP, Oppo105
      Electronics-Doshi Pre,CJ MET1mchPre, Cary2A3monoamps
      Speakers-AvantgardeDuosLR,3SolosC,LR,RR
      Other-2x512Engineer/Marutani Symmetrical Power, AudioDiskVinylCleaner, Scott Rust Interconnects,
      Music-2000R2Rtapes,50TBrips

      Comment


      • #4
        Regardless of the recording you choose be aware that there are at least two versions of the work. There is a pre 1947 version and the 1947. I think those dates are correct. It has been a while since I read the liner notes. I have the 1947. I prefer the pre version I believe. The version I have doesn't have the "Dance of the Ballerina" trumpet solo which I like and it is an extended solo. I also just prefer the orchestration of the original version. Both versions were by Stravinsky so don't conclude that one is the "true" version.
        Turntable: TW Acustic TT with Ref motor & controller; Tri-Planar Arm; Transfiguration Proteus Cartridge, Harmonix-Combak platter mat & weight; PS Audio Stellar Phono Preamp; KLAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner.
        Digital: Bluesound Vault-2 Music Server & Streamer
        Amplification: VTL 6.5 preamp Series II, Pass Labs 150.8 Amp
        Loudspeakers: Piega C711 Loudspeakers
        Isolation: Symposium Osiris Rack; Symposium Platforms and Roller Blocks and grade 2.5 Balls
        Misc: Acoustic Revive RR-888 Low Frequency Pulse Generator, Synergistic Research 12 UEF SE Line Conditioner, Level 3 HC AC Cord and Level 3 Atmosphere power cords, Synergistic Carbon fiber wall plates, Synergistic Research Orange Outlet, Furutech NCF Booster Braces, synergistic Research Galileo and Atmosphere X Euphoria Level 3 Balanced ICs, Synergistic Research Euphoria Level 3 Speaker Cables, Synergistic Research Cable Risers.

        Sennheiser HDV 650 Headphone Amp; Sennheiser HD800s Headphones.

        Comment


        • #5
          Oscar Danon conducting the RPO recording of Petrouchka (1911) is off the charts fabulous, one of my absolute faves including the Ansermet Larry mentioned. The Chesky LP (DECCA) has been OOP for a while and fetches $100+ but worth every cent. I have two copies both have minor pressing issues (dimples) but the SQ more than makes up for it.

          Comment


          • Rob
            Rob commented
            Editing a comment
            I've not seen or heard the SXL release, I know its a "Wilkie" recording by Decca and co. and Ken out did himself on this if that's even possible. I know, lotsa hype coming from me but its easily in my top 10 best classical records I own or have heard.

          • JCOConnell
            JCOConnell commented
            Editing a comment
            I don't mind CDs too much for pop or rock but they just don't work on classical for me.

          • Madfloyd
            Madfloyd commented
            Editing a comment
            I listened to this last night and am not that impressed with the sound quality. I prefer the Mercury.

        • #6
          I like two versions on DG:

          Boulez / Cleveland

          and

          Abbado / London

          Heard both on LP, and they were pretty good, in that standard dry DG sound.



          Attached Files
          Disclosure:
          Alma Music and Audio - La Jolla, CA
          Aqua Hi-Fi - Audio Research - Audioquest - Audionet - Audiopax - Auralic - Aurender - Bergmann - Brodmann - D'Agostino - darTZeel - Devialet - DEQX - ELAC - Evolution Acoustics - Hegel - iFi - Innuos - IsoTek - Kii Audio - Koetsu - Kronos - Kubala Sosna - Kuzma - Larsen - Linn - MSB Technology - Music Hall - Ortofon - Solid Steel - Technics - Wharfedale - Wilson Audio - YG Acoustics
          [ http://almaaudio.com ]

          Comment


          • #7
            The Columbia series "Stravinsky Conducts Stravinsky" are uniformly exceptional recordings. There is a Petroushka. Look for the original 6 eye version.
            PROGRESSIVE SOUNDS FROM AROUND THE WORLD
            www.lasercd.com
            www.lasersedgegroup.com

            Rockport Aquila, Boulder 2010, Boulder 2008, Boulder 2060, Transparent Audio Reference XL, Nordost Quantum QBase8, TW Acustic AC Anniversary, TW Acustic Raven 10.5 arm, Lyra Atlas, Bricasti M1 Special Edition, SRA Scuttle3 rack + various SRA/Symposium stands

            Comment


            • Madfloyd
              Madfloyd commented
              Editing a comment
              Yes, I love all the Stravinsky Conducts Stravinsky recordings!

          • #8
            Originally posted by lasercd View Post
            The Columbia series "Stravinsky Conducts Stravinsky" are uniformly exceptional recordings. There is a Petroushka. Look for the original 6 eye version.
            I mail ordered one of these. What are the other titles in the series?
            Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver Interconnects

            Comment


            • #9
              I'm sure that I'm missing something but here are ones I either own or are aware of:

              Le Sacre du Printemps
              The Firebird
              Igor Stravinsky Conducts, 1961 (this one in particular is a killer)
              Petroushka
              Violin Concerto in D Major (w/Isaac Stern)
              Les Noces
              Pulcinella
              Le Rossignol

              I look for the OG stereo 6-eye pressings although I've been told that subsequent Masterworks pressings are their sonic equal and perhaps quieter. I haven't compared at all. I also am not deeply into classical music. While one would think that Stravinsky conducting his own music would be the definitive version, apparently there are critics who take issue with the interpretations of these recordings.

              If you want to dip your toe in the waters beyond the Petroushka you ordered I would suggest tracking down "1961". As I've mentioned in previous posts, the dynamics on this recording will give you whiplash. Sometimes difficult music but a very fun and engaging listen.
              PROGRESSIVE SOUNDS FROM AROUND THE WORLD
              www.lasercd.com
              www.lasersedgegroup.com

              Rockport Aquila, Boulder 2010, Boulder 2008, Boulder 2060, Transparent Audio Reference XL, Nordost Quantum QBase8, TW Acustic AC Anniversary, TW Acustic Raven 10.5 arm, Lyra Atlas, Bricasti M1 Special Edition, SRA Scuttle3 rack + various SRA/Symposium stands

              Comment


              • #10
                Originally posted by lasercd View Post
                I'm sure that I'm missing something but here are ones I either own or are aware of:

                Le Sacre du Printemps
                The Firebird
                Igor Stravinsky Conducts, 1961 (this one in particular is a killer)
                Petroushka
                Violin Concerto in D Major (w/Isaac Stern)
                Les Noces
                Pulcinella
                Le Rossignol

                I look for the OG stereo 6-eye pressings although I've been told that subsequent Masterworks pressings are their sonic equal and perhaps quieter. I haven't compared at all. I also am not deeply into classical music. While one would think that Stravinsky conducting his own music would be the definitive version, apparently there are critics who take issue with the interpretations of these recordings.

                If you want to dip your toe in the waters beyond the Petroushka you ordered I would suggest tracking down "1961". As I've mentioned in previous posts, the dynamics on this recording will give you whiplash. Sometimes difficult music but a very fun and engaging listen.
                Thanks for the list.

                Depending on how much I like the performance and sound (which is always iffy on Columbia) of the Columbia Symphony Orchestra, I may be interested in Rite of Spring, Firebird, the Violin Concerto/Stern, and "1961". Well see. The 6 eyes are not expensive, but they aren't free either. Especially in NM condition.
                Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver Interconnects

                Comment


                • Madfloyd
                  Madfloyd commented
                  Editing a comment
                  Histoire du Soldat in this series is one of my demo LPs.

                • Guest's Avatar
                  Guest commented
                  Editing a comment
                  JC - that's my experience as well.

                • MylesBAstor
                  MylesBAstor commented
                  Editing a comment
                  Strings on the Columbias are at least in my systems over the years downright unlistenable. Remember, these were recorded at the atrocious sounding Avery Fisher Hall too. Now one has to remember that Columbia pressed boatloads of these album and the sound went downhill with the pressing number but even the earlier LPs have the string sound. Ughhh..... A great argument for a Cello Palette.

                  Funny thing and it's counterintuitive, Stravinsky wasn't the best conductor of his own music. Something that I think Stravinsky even complemented Bernstein on. That said, one Stravinsky piece that Bernstein didn't do the best on was Petrouchka. Rite of Spring another story.

              • #11
                I have the Chesky pressing as well as Colin Davis on Philips and the Clarity Records One Step Single Sided 33RPM LP (considered to have a wide dynamic range) .
                ​ ​
                ​ ​
                Last edited by Joe Pittman; 11-25-2016, 02:16 AM.
                Speakers/Amps: Genesis G2.2 Jr with Powered Servo-Sub Bass, Genesis GR1440 Mono Amps, 5,000 watts total power
                Preamp: SMc Audio VRE-1C Preamp (fully balanced inputs and output)
                Analog 1: VPI Signature 21 Belt-Drive Turntable w/ 10” 3D Printed Fatboy Gimbal Arm and Ortofon MC Windfeld Ti Phono Cartridge driving Lehmann Silver Cube Phono Preamp
                Analog 2: VPI HW-40 Direct-Drive Turntable w/ 12” 3D Printed Fatboy Gimbal Arm and Ortofon MC Anna Diamond Phono Cartridge driving Genesis Gold Phono Preamp
                Analog 3: VPI Avenger Reference Rim Drive Turntable w/ 12" 3D Printed Fatboy Gimbal Arm and Ortofon MC Verismo Phono Cartridge
                Analog 4: Second 12" Fatboy arm on Avenger with Ortofon 2M Mono SE Cartridge
                Analog 5: Studer A810 R2R tape w/ Bridge Console. Using built-in tape preamp
                Digital: Lumin Network Player with Lumin NAS
                Cables: Genesis Advanced Technologies/Absolute Fidelity Interface Interconnects, Speaker, Phono and Power
                A/C Power: Extensive System Upgrades, Sub-panel w/hard-wired power cables, and IsoTek Super Titan Passive Power Conditioning for Amplifiers
                Accessories: Custom Acrylic Equipment Stands, Klaudio Ultrasonic RCM

                Comment


                • #12
                  I don't know where it stands performance wise, but I'm a sucker for Dorati:

                  Click image for larger version

Name:	AMER_90216__109471__09152015105221-9978.jpg
Views:	1515
Size:	5.2 KB
ID:	33754

                  Comment


                  • #13
                    If you want a DSD256 version of the great Ernest Ansermet's 1957 stereo version of Petrushka, HDTT has it on sale (30% off through the weekend - $18.20 instead of $26). Bob Wittrack made a direct copy of the 15ips 2 track tape to DSD256 using Pyramix and Hapi. There are also lesser formats for less money. All downloads at HDTT are 30% off. I have the download and it is excellent, better than my vinyl original or Speakers Corner copy. Playing it through my NADAC.


                    High Resolution Downloads, Classical Music, Jazz Music, Rare Audiophile, DSD Downloads, Pure Audio. Blu ray Audio


                    Larry

                    Analog- VPIClassic3-3DArm,Lyra Skala+MiyajimaZeroMono, 2xAmpex ATR-102,Otari MX5050B2,Merrill Trident Master Tape Pre,Herron VTPH-2A
                    Dig Rip-Pyramix,IzotopeRX3Adv,Mykerinos,PacMicroModel2
                    Dig Play-mchNADAC, LampiHorizon, Roon, HQP, Oppo105
                    Electronics-Doshi Pre,CJ MET1mchPre, Cary2A3monoamps
                    Speakers-AvantgardeDuosLR,3SolosC,LR,RR
                    Other-2x512Engineer/Marutani Symmetrical Power, AudioDiskVinylCleaner, Scott Rust Interconnects,
                    Music-2000R2Rtapes,50TBrips

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    X