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  • We've passed Peak vinyl...here comes the collapse!

    According to the article, the decline has already started!

    http://www.stereogum.com/1889324/wev...t-whos-buying/
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  • #2
    did they really expect to keep vinyl growing at 30,40% a year? That's not realistic.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by JCOConnell View Post
      did they really expect to keep vinyl growing at 30,40% a year? That's not realistic.
      I agree. However, the article is a bit misleading by discounting the increase of actual physical copies being sold. If more product is being sold year over year then the format is still seeing net increases.
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      • #4
        I guess it is a matter of perspective. I would hardly call the mid-late-'90s the "golden years" of vinyl. In terms of peak sales, it was probably in the mid-'70s up through Thriller, right?
        As to the vinyl fad being "over," it doesn't matter to me or likely to any others who are listening to vinyl via old pressings or audiophile pressings (new or out of print). Although some new "standard issue" vinyl is fine, there are a fair number of badly mastered, badly pressed records, including copies that were promoted for RSD. The decline of that won't affect my buying or listening habits one bit and I doubt it will change much for readers here. The "fad" has only helped encourage some new infrastructure, which will be to our benefit as records continue to be pressed. Probably like a lot of you, I'm more interested in a well made record than some piece of instant memorabilia, and would happily dispense with the some of the hype for better QC, better quality inner sleeves, and better source material for mastering.

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        • Rob
          Rob commented
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          my thoughts exactly

        • siddh
          siddh commented
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          Since my main source for home listening is vinyl, I am grateful for and dependent on the continued growth, else we may find a return to the mid 90's-mid 2000's, relegated to very limited releases. I purchase between 6-10 lps/mo, rarely of re-pressings...so abundant is the new music on vinyl.

      • #5
        Not to worry. Persons of sensibility and taste will continue to play vinyl records. These persons will never constitute the mass market, but who cares really? The same can be said even now of the small number of folks who still play 45s an 78s. Not a lot of people in that cohort, but they are happy people with plenty of records to hear. A collapsing "market" for vinyl matters not one bit for most of us who listen to LPs. Indeed, a market collapse means more available records for those of us who care about the experience of playing and hearing music in its best (pace all you R2R nuts) format. I've got a couple of thousand records in VG+ or better condition. With reasonable care in ownership after my demise, they'll be playable for at least a century (probably multiple centuries).

        Now let's return to a better subject, like helping me pick a phono pre to last me the next few decades: Pass? AR? Herron? Zesto?
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        • #6
          As has been mentioned it matters little to me as well. If every LP, new or used, were suddenly to disappear I'd still have enough to keep me satisfied 'til my dying days. We've all been pretty lucky growing up in the heyday of vinyl, and yes....I have a copy of Thriller as well!
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          • #7
            How come every vinyl pressing plant around the world is at full capacity and more keep coming on line? Why are new presses being manufactured?
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            • MylesBAstor
              MylesBAstor commented
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              I think the question is as always where do they obtain their figures? Mikey has maintained these numbers are a huge underestimate.

          • #8
            Originally posted by Johnny Vinyl View Post
            As has been mentioned it matters little to me as well. If every LP, new or used, were suddenly to disappear I'd still have enough to keep me satisfied 'til my dying days. We've all been pretty lucky growing up in the heyday of vinyl, and yes....I have a copy of Thriller as well!
            Speaking of that. What are some peoples plans after us. I am selling everything off. Going to a min setup .
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            • #9
              Hmmmm...what about that rumor?

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              • #10
                Hmmm....wonder what the cranks think about this?

                I received a spread sheet earlier in the year estimating how many records would be pressed in 2016. The total was well in excess of 80,000,000 (yes, eighty million). But, because it was an estimate I didn't want to run with it. The spread sheet lists all of the pressing plants worldwide that you've heard of and many, many others you've never heard of. The estimate of how many records will be pressed worldwide this year is 84,130,000 and that doesn't include a few new plants up and running that have not supplied any numbers..
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                Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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                -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                -Goldmund Telos 300 stereo amp
                -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
                -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.1+ platforms.

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                • MylesBAstor
                  MylesBAstor commented
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                  And the thing is we know presses are completely back logged this year.
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