Vinyl resurgence? What do you think?

[mkuller]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-20/spotify-apple-drive-u-s-music-industry-s-8-first-half-growth

[JCOConnell]

while Lp sales are rising in a shrinking music market, as you can see by the chart, overall Lp sales are still just a drop in the bucket.

[mep]

Yeah, but what does "vinyl single" mean?

[Rob]

its the 7" 45

[mep]

I didn't know if they meant 7" 45 or if they meant 12" singles like the DJs play. Either way, I don't believe this chart is accurate.

[Rob]

Mark, I know what you mean. it was the graphs/charts that drove everyone away form that other site.

[Guest]

I think someone should reanimate Lewis Layton.

[Rob]

and Bob Fine, Ken wilkinson, Rudy Van Gelder et al. them were the days

[Goheelz]

Streaming with mid-fi digital is the mainstream future, but I'm enjoying the hi-fi vinyl present.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Seems like every week there is a new article out, but none of them match up. Who to believe, eh? Whatever the situation I'm enjoying the ride.

[MylesBAstor]

Here what my audiobuddy and I were discussing the other day.

Where exactly does the LP reissue market go from now? Seems to me that many of the desirable analog titles have been done by now (KOB to death and perhaps should be put to rest based on the MOFI reissue). MMJ is ending their Blue Note reissues. Chad has reissued most of the cherry picked titles from Pablo, Blue Note, Impulse, Contemporary, Fantasy, etc. Some twice now eg. 33 and 45 rpm. Classic Records is gone. Audio Fidelity is reissuing some off the beaten path LPs. ORG is dipping into the Columbia library. Speakers Corner and Pure Pleasure not so interesting anymore.

Sure there are a few surprises here and now. Sure there are some hidden gems but many of them just aren't attractive enough to sell more than a couple hundred titles. Other titles that haven't been reissued may be due to the masters being damaged or missing. How many different ways can a company reissue a title (Classic for instance was the champion releasing the same title in 180 or 200 gm, Quiex, Special Profile, Clarity, 33 rpm, 45 rpm)?

About the only market still with some room to grow is rock. Licensing costs and a host of other issues (having to say get approval of the artists before release, companies wanting to to the releases in digital/LP, etc) limit the companies that can afford to reissue these titles.

[MylesBAstor]

[siddh]

So much new music..."alternative", techno, rock, some country, and the occasional jazz. I rarely feel the need to purchase re-issues, since most of the copies I own are in great condition. I do wish much more contemporary classical and jazz performances were on vinyl.

[Gusf]

There are also many early Soul R.B titles that would be interesting.

[Long Live Analog]

I love my vinyl and buy them weekly always have and always will...

[MylesBAstor]

I am also curious what are the best selling audiophile titles and how many copies were sold? IIRC AP (and Classic) does runs of 2000 records and MOFI of 5000. Not aure say how many ORG (I assume 2000) or say Speakers Corner, Pure Pleasure or other labels do. Also which titles sold out and had second runs? Would also be interesting to have a list of what are say the best selling top 10 or 20 audiophile reissues.

[Long Live Analog]

I bet Chad could supply the answer...

[MylesBAstor]

Absolutely, I'm going to ask him at RMAF. I'll also probably see Jim Davis or some of the other guys from MOFI and ask them too. Maybe even Ying will be there as he is often seen at US audio shows.

[astrotoy]

At the peak of classical vinyl sales, the top albums sold what would now be unbelievable numbers. Solti's Ring Cycle (19 records total) sold more than a million records cumulatively - that is the equivalent of 50,000 + sets of 19 records - and that is for Wagner operas (3, 5, 5, 6 records respectively for the 4 operas). The best individual seller was Cliburn's Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto 1, done to commemorate his winning the first Tchaikovsky Competition in 1958. It alone sold 1 million records. One of the former Decca advertising staff told me that he used to prepare the ad copy for the Decca classical records. Back in the '70's Decca would buy 13 or more full pages in color in Gramophone Magazine every month to announce the new recordings they would issue that month, one page for each album.

Larry

[MylesBAstor]

At the peak of classical vinyl sales, the top albums sold what would now be unbelievable numbers. Solti's Ring Cycle (19 records total) sold more than a million records cumulatively - that is the equivalent of 50,000 + sets of 19 records - and that is for Wagner operas (3, 5, 5, 6 records respectively for the 4 operas). The best individual seller was Cliburn's Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto 1, done to commemorate his winning the first Tchaikovsky Competition in 1958. It alone sold 1 million records. One of the former Decca advertising staff told me that he used to prepare the ad copy for the Decca classical records. Back in the '70's Decca would buy 13 or more full pages in color in Gramophone Magazine every month to announce the new recordings they would issue that month, one page for each album.

Larry

I've seen stamper numbers in the 150s for the RCA van Cliburn.