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    Are Wilson Audiophile LP's really coming? Below you can see Acoustic Sounds add from the Stereophile. I would be overjoyed if these records would be made from analog masters but have little hope they will. What do you think?

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    Source: Kuzma XL DC/4Point 14 inch/CAR60; Phono: Zanden 1200 Signature; Tuner: Magnum Dynalab MD-108T Signature; Line Stage: Zanden 3000 Mk2; Power amp: Lamm 1.2 Reference; Speakers: AlsyVox Botticelli; Grounding: Tripoint Troy Elite NG; Cable system: Cardas Clear Beyond; Stands: Finite Elemente Master Reference & Master Reference Heavy Duty; Power strip: Cardas Nautilus; Power filter: P.I Audo: BUSS Depot; Acoustics treatment: Svanå Miljöteknik AB (SMT);

  • #2
    I have all those Wilson records from back in the day. Are they really expensive now? I can't imagine they were abused by the folks that bought them. Just a note in passing, since I assume the photo of Skynyrd's "Pronounced" has nothing to do with the Wilson records--the best sounding copy I found, among several, including an early SOS labelled pressing and the MoFi re-do, among others, was a later, nondescript MCA reissue. Go figure....(The vinyl quality when that album was released was near the bottom of the figurative oil barrel).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bill Hart View Post
      I have all those Wilson records from back in the day. Are they really expensive now?
      Unfortunately yes. $100-130 for the VG-VG+, $170 for NM and have seen some that sell for $300...

      Source: Kuzma XL DC/4Point 14 inch/CAR60; Phono: Zanden 1200 Signature; Tuner: Magnum Dynalab MD-108T Signature; Line Stage: Zanden 3000 Mk2; Power amp: Lamm 1.2 Reference; Speakers: AlsyVox Botticelli; Grounding: Tripoint Troy Elite NG; Cable system: Cardas Clear Beyond; Stands: Finite Elemente Master Reference & Master Reference Heavy Duty; Power strip: Cardas Nautilus; Power filter: P.I Audo: BUSS Depot; Acoustics treatment: Svanå Miljöteknik AB (SMT);

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Marcus View Post
        Are Wilson Audiophile LP's really coming? Below you can see Acoustic Sounds add from the Stereophile. I would be overjoyed if these records would be made from analog masters but have little hope they will. What do you think?
        if you're intimating that it's cut from the recent DSD transfers then id just assume buy the downloads and pass on the vinyl.

        TechDAS | Graham Eng | ZYX | Boulder | Magico

        "Listening to Analogue music is an act of rebellion in a digital gulag" - Simon Yorke

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Marcus View Post

          Unfortunately yes. $100-130 for the VG-VG+, $170 for NM and have seen some that sell for $300...
          Had no idea. Thanks for that, Marcus. I guess buying all those things back in the day wasn't a bad move after all. You guys are going to have a field day when I leave the planet, but I've still got work to do here----so many records, so little time!

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          • #6
            If you want the best sound out of these Wilson albums, Chad is releasing 2 of them on Reel to Reel - 15ips 2 track. $450 each, not much more than the top price for some of the vinyl, and these are about as close to the master tapes as you can get. I'm getting them. Maybe I'll put my vinyl copies for sale and recoup some of the cost of the tapes ;-)

            Larry
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            • #7
              Yes I know Larry. Perhaps I'll buy these tapes too but when reissues come out I bet prices of original LP's will go down at least a bit. Or not.
              Source: Kuzma XL DC/4Point 14 inch/CAR60; Phono: Zanden 1200 Signature; Tuner: Magnum Dynalab MD-108T Signature; Line Stage: Zanden 3000 Mk2; Power amp: Lamm 1.2 Reference; Speakers: AlsyVox Botticelli; Grounding: Tripoint Troy Elite NG; Cable system: Cardas Clear Beyond; Stands: Finite Elemente Master Reference & Master Reference Heavy Duty; Power strip: Cardas Nautilus; Power filter: P.I Audo: BUSS Depot; Acoustics treatment: Svanå Miljöteknik AB (SMT);

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              • #8
                I guess it all comes down to whether Dave is willing to risk playing his delicate tapes more than once. (There's probably only a couple of people who know the shape of these tapes.)

                IIRC, Bruce travelled to Provo to do the digital transfer so I don't know how Dave would feel about sending the tapes to someone else. Certainly anyone doing the mastering from the tapes would have to be West Coast based and there's probably only three choices: Michael Bishop, Bernie Grundman or Kevin Gray.

                Personally I think a new analog reissue of many of the original releases would be better. Why? I think the sound of some of the originals like Center Stage and Winds of War and Peace are over rated. And yes, I know they are on HP's list. My favorite Wilson Audio recording is still the trio of Razzmatazz recordings. And even the vol 1 varied as there were at least two pressings.

                My Las Vegas odds: less than 50:50 they will be analog. But I would love to be wrong.
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                • Rob
                  Rob commented
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                  i must have the 'bad' pressing of Razzmatazz b/c it never did much for me (sorry) I like Winds and Center Stage for the sonics but the playing is off, and for a non-musician to notice that..and its not just me but real musicans confirmed what I hear.

                • astrotoy
                  astrotoy commented
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                  As of a couple of years ago Michael Bishop was in Cleveland, not the West Coast. He did the remastering of the Decca albums that Winston Ma used in our Decca book. I haven't communicated with Michael since before Winston's passing last summer, so they may have moved west. (Unless Cleveland is the west for a New Yorker like Myles :-))

                  Larry

                • Bill Hart
                  Bill Hart commented
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                  Speaking of Decca, do any of you own Caravan "In the Land..."? It's on Deram, which became the "prog" imprint of Decca. The Uk pressing is marvelous sounding, and the music, while a bit whimsical, is played with great aplomb. Wilson was a recordist before he became a speaker builder, no? I will have to go back through all the Wilsons I have--they languish on a shelf.

              • #9
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                Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post
                My Las Vegas odds: less than 50:50 they will be analog. But I would love to be wrong.
                Me too!
                Source: Kuzma XL DC/4Point 14 inch/CAR60; Phono: Zanden 1200 Signature; Tuner: Magnum Dynalab MD-108T Signature; Line Stage: Zanden 3000 Mk2; Power amp: Lamm 1.2 Reference; Speakers: AlsyVox Botticelli; Grounding: Tripoint Troy Elite NG; Cable system: Cardas Clear Beyond; Stands: Finite Elemente Master Reference & Master Reference Heavy Duty; Power strip: Cardas Nautilus; Power filter: P.I Audo: BUSS Depot; Acoustics treatment: Svanå Miljöteknik AB (SMT);

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                • #10
                  Has anybody listened to Chad's reissues yet?
                  Source: Kuzma XL DC/4Point 14 inch/CAR60; Phono: Zanden 1200 Signature; Tuner: Magnum Dynalab MD-108T Signature; Line Stage: Zanden 3000 Mk2; Power amp: Lamm 1.2 Reference; Speakers: AlsyVox Botticelli; Grounding: Tripoint Troy Elite NG; Cable system: Cardas Clear Beyond; Stands: Finite Elemente Master Reference & Master Reference Heavy Duty; Power strip: Cardas Nautilus; Power filter: P.I Audo: BUSS Depot; Acoustics treatment: Svanå Miljöteknik AB (SMT);

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by Marcus View Post
                    Has anybody listened to Chad's reissues yet?
                    Not yet. It appears the first two releases are now available and the second two 11/4. I'll probably order them Friday.
                    Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                    Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                    ________________________________________

                    -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                    -Goldmund Telos 300 stereo amp
                    -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                    -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                    -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                    -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                    -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                    -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                    -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
                    -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.1+ platforms.

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                    • #12
                      I ordered all four WA reissues. Will be interesting to compare them to originals...
                      Source: Kuzma XL DC/4Point 14 inch/CAR60; Phono: Zanden 1200 Signature; Tuner: Magnum Dynalab MD-108T Signature; Line Stage: Zanden 3000 Mk2; Power amp: Lamm 1.2 Reference; Speakers: AlsyVox Botticelli; Grounding: Tripoint Troy Elite NG; Cable system: Cardas Clear Beyond; Stands: Finite Elemente Master Reference & Master Reference Heavy Duty; Power strip: Cardas Nautilus; Power filter: P.I Audo: BUSS Depot; Acoustics treatment: Svanå Miljöteknik AB (SMT);

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                      • #13
                        They came. For starters I compared Abel/Steinberg Sonatas for violin and piano (W-8722) and although the AP reissue is excellent, the original is better. It generally sounds a bit fresher, clearer, has better dynamic, transients are faster and clearer but the AP has slightly stronger lower registers. I'm not sure if the AP reissue is all analogue but it doesn't sound digital to me...
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                        Source: Kuzma XL DC/4Point 14 inch/CAR60; Phono: Zanden 1200 Signature; Tuner: Magnum Dynalab MD-108T Signature; Line Stage: Zanden 3000 Mk2; Power amp: Lamm 1.2 Reference; Speakers: AlsyVox Botticelli; Grounding: Tripoint Troy Elite NG; Cable system: Cardas Clear Beyond; Stands: Finite Elemente Master Reference & Master Reference Heavy Duty; Power strip: Cardas Nautilus; Power filter: P.I Audo: BUSS Depot; Acoustics treatment: Svanå Miljöteknik AB (SMT);

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                        • MylesBAstor
                          MylesBAstor commented
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                          It says all analog on the outer cover and it's an Acoustic Sounds reissue. So it is. For the hell of it, play the album a couple of times and then compare the original with the reissue again. Sometimes I find because the better labels don't dehorn, Lps sound a little better after playing a couple of times.

                        • Marcus
                          Marcus commented
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                          Ok and will also clean it with the US cleaner.
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