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    Penny Lane - and other melancholia...

    Listening to the 24 bit "MQS" reissue of the Beatles 1, and realized, no matter how much I love the song Penny Lane, it always leaves feeling a deep sense of melancholy. Everything about the song, the reminiscences, the tune, the instrumentation. Anyone else feel this way about it?

    Any songs that leave you feeling this way?
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    Two immediately come to mind:

    Sad Lisa by Cat Stevens

    Landslide by Fleetwood Mac

    And the award for downright, country depressing goes to:

    Deliah by Johnny Cash

    Think it says a lot about the musicians to be able to evoke such as deep feeling.
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    • Steve Lefkowicz
      #2.1
      Steve Lefkowicz commented
      01-17-2017, 12:31 AM
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      Cash's Delia is a great song. Totally different song but the same name, "Delia" off of David Johansen and the Harry Smiths is pretty dark in that way too.
  • #3
    Tindersticks "Hey Lucinda" .

    A posthumous duet with singer Lhasa de Sale.Her bit recorded just before she died at a young age. Fabulous recording too. Riveting stuff,not morbid ,not shmaltzy just leaving the listener empty and sad,yearning for the better times.

    Van Morrison. "Coney Island"

    Al Stewart. "End of the day"
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    • Steve Lefkowicz
      #3.1
      Steve Lefkowicz commented
      01-17-2017, 12:27 AM
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      I'll have to find that and give it a listen. Never heard it before.
  • #4
    Penny Lane has never sounded like melancholia to me. I just sounds nostalgic. As Paul and John said "It was just reliving childhood.”

    For melancholia how about The Animals - House of the Rising Sun.
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    • Steve Lefkowicz
      #4.1
      Steve Lefkowicz commented
      01-17-2017, 12:33 AM
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      The beauty of music. Different people react to the same things in different ways.
  • #5
    The McGarrigle sisters "Talk to Me of Mendocino" from their first album is one of the most emotional songs I have in my collection, and leaves me practically in tears when I play it, but it doesn't evoke that sense of melancholy that Penny Lane does.
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    • #6
      How about Bruce's Born in the USA that Reagan misinterpreted? Pretty sad song about how we treated our Vietnam War vets. (Another Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds! )
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      • #7
        Or how about The Doors "The End?"
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        • mkuller
          #7.3
          mkuller commented
          01-18-2017, 12:02 AM
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          Especially if you saw Apocalypse Now.
        • Jtycho
          #7.4
          Jtycho commented
          01-18-2017, 04:57 AM
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          No I'm not sure. For whatever reason I connect melancholy with just the slightest hint of wistfulness. It's a sadness connected with a certain kind of longing. Not textbook I know, but it's why I put The End into a different category. Now Penny Lane, that's wistful.
        • Steve Lefkowicz
          #7.5
          Steve Lefkowicz commented
          01-18-2017, 11:33 AM
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          That is more in line with what I was describing.
      • #8
        Harry Chapin's "cat's in the cradle", now that's melancholy.
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        • #9
          Originally posted by Steve Lefkowicz View Post
          Listening to the 24 bit "MQS" reissue of the Beatles 1, and realized, no matter how much I love the song Penny Lane, it always leaves feeling a deep sense of melancholy. Everything about the song, the reminiscences, the tune, the instrumentation. Anyone else feel this way about it?

          Any songs that leave you feeling this way?
          Penny Lane? nope. feels upbeat to me.
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          • #10
            Originally posted by JCOConnell View Post
            Harry Chapin's "cat's in the cradle", now that's melancholy.
            Sorry think this one wins hands down.

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            • mkuller
              #10.1
              mkuller commented
              01-18-2017, 12:03 AM
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              Winner, winner chicken dinner.
            • MylesBAstor
              #10.2
              MylesBAstor commented
              01-18-2017, 05:48 AM
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              Yeah when you are down and listen to this, you become even more depressed and teary eyed. What a sad song. Maybe becaue we have all gone through this and can relate? Maybe because it's part of human nature to go through that optimistic/idealistic phase but few ever achieve their dreams and goals in life.
            • Joe Pittman
              #10.3
              Joe Pittman commented
              01-18-2017, 06:21 AM
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              When this came out, I had just broken up with my girlfriend named Sue. It was a bummer, so I could relate to flying in my taxi and getting stoned.
          • #11
            Myles, thanks for that great Harry Chapin song. Never heard it before. Here are two others - the second thinking about how quickly she was gone.
            For the first one, Don is one year younger than me.

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            • Joe Pittman
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              Joe Pittman commented
              01-17-2017, 07:55 PM
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              Excellent video about American Pie, thank you. And when ever I hear Eva, I get melancholy, thinking she was gone way too soon.
          • #12
            Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post

            Sorry think this one wins hands down.

            Harry always told great stories through his songs. I know Taxi well. Great story. I saw him in concert once in a small hall. He came outside after the concert was over and talked to everyone who wanted to talk. He was really a good guy.
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            • Doxycc
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              Doxycc commented
              01-17-2017, 09:15 PM
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              Yes, he was very intimate with the audience. I recall that I might have seen him at "my father's place" on LI, but memory fails me a bit
          • #13
            If I recall from the Beatles Biography, Penny Lane was about Paul's childhood where Strawberry Fields was about John's. I always found Penny Land upbeat.
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            • #14
              Can't believe forgot this one. And from The Beatles.
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              • astrotoy
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                astrotoy commented
                01-18-2017, 01:58 PM
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                Myles, thanks. Also thought of McCartney's song for Julian Lennon, "Hey Jude", about his parents' divorce. BTW, the girls screaming in the background are probably all grandmothers today.

                Larry
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              Another one that came to mind.
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