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Funny article. Apparently I'm extremely white and horribly uncool - I *LOVE* prog rock
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The Whitest Music Ever
The idiot media can't help themselves injecting and infecting music genres with identity politics. So out of touch.Comment
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The same author wrote another piece "How Heavy Metal is Keeping us Sane." Does that make me *insane* for liking both
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...s-sane/308443/Comment
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What's ironic is that punk was anti-music. It was a reaction to the slickness of over-produced, commercial, mainstream material and the more cacophonous and unschooled in musical conventions, the better. Of course, that got commercialized too. The piece was also posted at the Hoffman site, where I wrote this (I think the entire thread has since been removed):
I didn't know anything about the author, so I found this quick sketch: Up Front: James Parker
Parker has written a bio about Henry Rollins, so I gather he likes, or is interested in punk. Glad he has music he likes.
As for the rest of it, I honestly don't know what "prog" is or how to define it. My friend Ken Golden, who is a guru of sorts on the subject, pointed me to a work that defined it in terms of big "P" prog and 'little p" prog, but that didn't really clear things up.
For example, when I heard Tull on stage, right before the release of Aqualung, I doubt I had even heard the term "progressive rock." Maybe in the context of some hype on a faux-underground FM station, but I dug their hard rock sound, combined with a sort of minstrel thing that conjured up Monty Python and the Pied Piper.
ELP's first album was a monster at the time of release. It was very much a stoner album. I don't think of those days as effete, overly pretentious rockers. (Maybe they were- hell, Led Zep, which constantly got bashed by the critics back in the day, certainly cultivated a pretty recherché life style, complete with outfits, mythology and lot's of "privilege" at the same time they were mining the treasure trove of American blues).
There is this large disconnect, in my view, between events and people that write about them. I'm not anti-intellectual-- in fact, I appreciate good research and the well-crafted turn of phrase.
I listen to all kinds of stuff that, in retrospect, fits under the mantle of "prog." But that tells you nothing about my taste or the specific bands, tracks or musical threads I'm tracing. Ken turned me onto Blast Furnace. It's a great album. If you look it up on Discogs, it says "prog rock." OK. It rocks hard, and there are interludes that sound like a Broadway show tune.
Rewriting musical history can be misleading. As one colleague said, "get it from the coal face." In other words, talk to the people who were there, who made the music, or were involved with it. Think about writers like Robert Christgau, whose name is always accompanied by the phrase "the self-proclaimed Dean of Rock Critics." And then pass the Gray Poupon. **** 'em.Comment
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Punk is still awesome. I am looking for a fresh "Never Mind the Buollocks". I miss the shows, the slam circle, the weird girls, late nights, drunken debauchery. Its a wonder I survived. A lot of those guys were great instrumentalist. TSOL, Social Distortion. Both guitarist were amazing. Jello Biafra, wonderful lyrics. Look up "Electric Love Hogs" on spotify. I went to high school with those guys. Watched Social Distortion play in the lead singers living room. They were a solid rock band.PAP Trio 15 Coax speakers, Dartzeel NHB108, First Sound Audio Mark 3SI Paramount preamp, Mojo Audio Deja Vu server, Mojo Audio Mystique V3 DAC, STST Motus II TT, Vertere SG1 arm, Aidas Durawood cartridge, Allnic H1201 Phono pre, The Linear Solution Ethernet Switch, LPS to Modem Router and Switch, Blue Jeans Ethernet cabling throughout network, Torus WM45BAL isolation transformer with Benjamin custom 120 volt single phase panel distributing to branch circuits. Custom power strip direct wired to panel with OFC copper wire.10 awg dedicated branch circuits to amps bolted to power cords. Significant upgrades to 120 volt main power panel such as all copper grounds and neutrals. Inakustik Ref Air 2404 Speaker cable. Genesis and Inakustik NF2404 Air speaker and Interconnect.Comment
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Agreed seeing Social Distortion in New Haven next week. I cant wait.Originally posted by Kingrex View PostComment
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I love Prog, but not everything. I'm much more drawn to folk prog, symphonic prog, canterbury style prog than I am to other sub-genres. I thought that Punk was refreshing at first due to the energy of it's devil may care attitude. Where it lost me was the lyrics. I couldn't identify with the message and it's anarchist views. That probably softened over time, but I never stuck around to find out.Dynavector DV20x2L MC cartridge - Genesis G7.1f speakers - Marantz Reference PM-KI-Pearl Int. Amp. - Oracle Audio Paris MkV turntable - Various Morrow & Valab/King cablesComment
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To the extent its punk, I'm in with Bad Brains. Those guys were monster instrumentalists. Turned on a dime. Timing impeccable. How many hard rock Rastafarian punk bands are there that could play at this level (when they were in their heyday).
I dig the Repo Man soundtrack- great sampler of that era.
I have a few punk records, not much of a collector-- I sort of veer off into odd directions-- Elvis Hitler was a fun band, but not straight up punk, more lo-fi. CBGB's was such a dive- (I arrived in New York after punk peaked, in 1981, but there was still a scene in the East Village and quite a few bands played the clubs.)Comment
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Did he forget to take his meds before writing that piece?Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
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hahaha possibly!
Looks more like linkbait to me... Dunno...
Hey, prog was my "first love", and it's still my "go to" genre. Out of 20k or so albums in my Roon server, 7607 is prog of some sort!Disclosure:Alma Music and Audio - La Jolla, CAAqua Hi-Fi - Audio Research - Audioquest - Audionet - Audiopax - Auralic - Aurender - Bergmann - Brodmann - D'Agostino - darTZeel - Devialet - DEQX - ELAC - Evolution Acoustics - Hegel - iFi - Innuos - IsoTek - Kii Audio - Koetsu - Kronos - Kubala Sosna - Kuzma - Larsen - Linn - MSB Technology - Music Hall - Ortofon - Solid Steel - Technics - Wharfedale - Wilson Audio - YG Acoustics
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How that person got to be a music critic escapes me. His lack of knowledge is truly frightening.
To wit. If this clown wants to criticize prog rock for "stealing" classical music, then all of rock is guilty in one way or another. From Elvis to the Stones to LZ to Billy Joel to Jethro Tull to so many more. But instead of being so superficial, perhaps this writer might have stepped back and thought about why instead of trying to sensationalize the piece.
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no offence, but the thread title comes off as classic troll bait.Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver InterconnectsComment
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