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    hile searching for something else in my Lp library, I came across this Mercury Living Presence disc. I didn't even know I had it so it must be at least 5 years since I played it so I decided to give it a spin; Wow, sound quality it excellent and the music is very good. The label does not match a typical original Mercury so I am assuming this a reissue but who did
    the reissue? Secondly, I must have bought this used because there is writing on the inner sleeve and its not my handwriting. I rarely buy reissues used, I usually go for new with reissues, but this plays both sides mint so no issue with condition on this copy. As far as the title goes, isn't this one of the more desirable original mercuries?

    P.S.Catalog number is SR90144
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  • #2
    Here's a starting point for your search:
    https://www.discogs.com/master/view/493427
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    • #3
      Of the originals, some labels were a dark maroon others were lighter. 30 years ago a stone mint copy of Hifi A La Espanola fetched upwards of 1500 bucks. Back in the day I think I paid nearly a kilo buck for mine. The Classic redos and subsequent reissues killed the values of original pressings, discogs shows a current average of $250.

      https://www.discogs.com/Frederick-Fe...elease/4143292
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      • #4
        based on discogs (thanks for the tip jonathanb) mine is probably a classic or mercury reissue, 180 g 33.
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        • Rob
          Rob commented
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          The closest thing Mercury did to a reissue were the Golden Import series which had a totally different jacket.

      • #5
        There was also a 45 rpm Classic reissue.

        The original FR1 is the one to have but it’s bongo bucks.
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        • #6
          The 45RPM Classics version didn't have the entire album. I have both the 33 and 45 reissues. I also bought the Golden Import Version which has a different title "Malaguena and Other Favorites" for a few bucks. I remember hearing the album first at Brian Hartsell's The Analog Room shop in San Jose. I found a sealed Mercury 7.5ips R2R version on one of his shelves and he opened it up to play. The music of the first cut, Percy Faith's 'Brazilian Sleigh Bells' was not a promising start. However it got better. Larry
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          • JCOConnell
            JCOConnell commented
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            yeah, that first track is a little hokie.

        • #7
          I have the same disk for years that remains sealed. Supposing it is Classic reissue but I have never found any distinguishing marks indicating so. I had an unopened Classic: Kind of Blue that I did open and the poor quality and relentless noise and pops made it unlistenable. After all attempts to fix it including Ultra Sonic I just threw it away. Is your Espanola clean and quiet? I may just sell my copy.

          Is there any way to differentiate the Classic Reissue from an Original if sealed?
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          • #8
            Originally posted by Letsmakeadeal View Post
            I have the same disk for years that remains sealed. Supposing it is Classic reissue but I have never found any distinguishing marks indicating so. I had an unopened Classic: Kind of Blue that I did open and the poor quality and relentless noise and pops made it unlistenable. After all attempts to fix it including Ultra Sonic I just threw it away. Is your Espanola clean and quiet? I may just sell my copy.

            Is there any way to differentiate the Classic Reissue from an Original if sealed?
            My reissue copy ( classic? ) is very quiet from beginning to end. Its not for sale.
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            • #9
              Originally posted by Letsmakeadeal View Post
              I have the same disk for years that remains sealed. Supposing it is Classic reissue but I have never found any distinguishing marks indicating so. I had an unopened Classic: Kind of Blue that I did open and the poor quality and relentless noise and pops made it unlistenable. After all attempts to fix it including Ultra Sonic I just threw it away. Is your Espanola clean and quiet? I may just sell my copy.

              Is there any way to differentiate the Classic Reissue from an Original if sealed?
              If you bought it before the early '90's then it is an original. Some of my originals also have a red circular stamp on the back, but not all. The classic reissues also should be heavier than the original Mercuries. Classic didn't leave any printed clues that I have found on their early releases.

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              • #10
                Originally posted by astrotoy View Post

                If you bought it before the early '90's then it is an original. Some of my originals also have a red circular stamp on the back, but not all. The classic reissues also should be heavier than the original Mercuries. Classic didn't leave any printed clues that I have found on their early releases.

                Larry
                Usually the artwork is a give away. Reissues aren’t as sharp, colors are washed out, etc. I think if you look at the back of the original Mercury albums, the black line at the top of album is about 1/4-inch thick; the Classic reissues barely have a black line at all at the top of the LP.

                On example is the Decca La Fille Mal Garde. Further away from the original, the worse the artwork. For example, the woman in the picture gets more and more blurred.
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                • #11
                  Originally posted by astrotoy View Post
                  The 45RPM Classics version didn't have the entire album. I have both the 33 and 45 reissues. I also bought the Golden Import Version which has a different title "Malaguena and Other Favorites" for a few bucks. I remember hearing the album first at Brian Hartsell's The Analog Room shop in San Jose. I found a sealed Mercury 7.5ips R2R version on one of his shelves and he opened it up to play. The music of the first cut, Percy Faith's 'Brazilian Sleigh Bells' was not a promising start. However it got better. Larry
                  These are my Classic 33 and 45 rpms. I only have disc 1 of the 45 rpm. Are you saying disc 2 still isn't complete? I also have somewhere a Classic sampler with one cut from 90144 iirc.

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                  Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                  Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                  ________________________________________

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                  -Goldmund Telos 280 stereo amp
                  -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                  -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                  -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                  -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                  -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                  -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                  -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 5, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
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                  • #12
                    Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post

                    These are my Classic 33 and 45 rpms. I only have disc 1 of the 45 rpm. Are you saying disc 2 still isn't complete? I also have somewhere a Classic sampler with one cut from 90144 iirc.

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                    Myles, the 45RPM Classic only came with 1 disc. They didn't include the entire album. That was true for a few other of the Classic 45 RPM RCA releases also. I just checked and the Comedians album LSC2398 only had Kabalevsky Comedians side, not the Khachaturian side. Also the 45RPM version of LSC2222 Debussy/Ravel only has part of the album. The Classic 33 versions are all complete.

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                    • #13
                      I think there is also a Universal version:
                      https://store.acousticsounds.com/d/1...m_Vinyl_Record

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                      • #14
                        Originally posted by astrotoy View Post

                        If you bought it before the early '90's then it is an original. Some of my originals also have a red circular stamp on the back, but not all. The classic reissues also should be heavier than the original Mercuries. Classic didn't leave any printed clues that I have found on their early releases.

                        Larry
                        Anyone know what the difference between the original and Classic's outer shrink/sleeve might be? I wonder if the original would have just had a traditional cellophane shrink wrap vs. the Classic's bag with perforated tear edge?
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                        • #15
                          Originally posted by Letsmakeadeal View Post

                          Anyone know what the difference between the original and Classic's outer shrink/sleeve might be? I wonder if the original would have just had a traditional cellophane shrink wrap vs. the Classic's bag with perforated tear edge?
                          The perforated bags were not around in the '60's, to my best recollection. I bought a fair number of Mercuries during the early mid '60's. 55 years is a long time to remember record cover wrappings. Larry
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