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  • I've Only Recently Gotten Into Weather Report

    Thanks to the excellent and highly recommended 45 rpm ORG reissues.

    “Weather Report was such a great, pivotal band. For so many they opened up a whole different way to go. Some bands were meant to be.”
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  • #2
    Once Jaco joined the band it was all over. The band quickly mutated into a slick vehicle playing a commercial form of fusion. If you want to hear the boundary breaking Weather Report you have to work your way backwards from Heavy Weather.
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    • Madfloyd
      Madfloyd commented
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      Interesting. I discovered them because of Jaco and haven't paid all that much attention to earlier releases. I will do so, thanks.

    • lasercd
      lasercd commented
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      The stone cold killers are:

      Weather Report (the ORG reissue is phenomenal
      I Sing The Body Electric
      Weather Report Live In Tokyo (Japan only release on vinyl)
      Sweetnighter
      Mysterious Traveller

      Jaco was a masterful bass player - I saw him play many times (sometimes out of his mind on smack) and even saw him wandering and acting crazy in the streets of Greenwich Village. While he brought his own thing to Weather Report the music became far more commercial. Heavy Weather is a fun listen but when you compare it to the early albums you'll know exactly what I mean.

    • Rob
      Rob commented
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      or work your way, way back to Joe Zawinul's earlier works before forming weather report (with cannonball Adderley and Miles Davis).

  • #3
    For me from heaven weather on and most infusion jazz to come is what I like. I never could get into pure jazz. While it may be great for some it's too bland meaning no hook or beat I could lock into. Now it may be great fir many never me.
    Stanley Clark , return to forever , head hunters and the lot is great for me. Maybe it was the fatty blunts that made it fine.
    I seen many of these artist in NYC and New Jersey . Avery fisher hall Stanley turrenteen and many others. Great times smoking out in the back yard before and during break. Wow great times for sure. Funny thing is I did not hang out in places like that with my white friends. Mostly black
    now rock and roll mostly white. I owed no one crowd anything ever.
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    • #4
      I like them both pre and with Jaco. I like the songs better after Jaco joined, and although in general the playing is less interesting than earlier, I wouldn't call any Weather Report "commercial" compared to all the bland stuff out there
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      • #5
        I've always liked "Heavy Weather" although some of makes me feel a little edgy.
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        • #6
          I never got into fusion or electric jazz. For me its classic acoustic "cool" Jazz. None of this contemporary jazz shit either.
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          • #7
            Wow am I outside the room on this one.
            Mall I can say is we each have what we like what always interested me is the journey to get there. I can say I never was exposed to it much at s young age
            mom and dad were not into music period. My 17 year older brother loved the 50 ,s music
            as stated I hung out with many crowds and got Spanish , jazz my kind and Motown and rock. I don't of any of my child hood friends that had the diversity I did.
            Does anyone remember mandrill ?
            analog stuff.
            otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 made new by soren
            otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 1/2 combo made new by soren
            sota sapphire used eminent tech ver 2 arm
            new sota nova table has magnetic levitation platter and full speed control and latest motor same arm as above
            thorens td124 sme ver 2 arm
            thorens td125 sme ver 2 arm
            kenwood direct drive sme ver 2 arm
            phono preamp Ml no 25 all re capped
            speakers cust infinity IRS V , new caps and LPS , magnets etc.
            mark levivson pre no 26 amps no 33
            digital three cust servers , win ser 2016 , AO
            Dacs lampi various

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            • #8
              My brothers used to play this so much the intro of Birdland drives me batty to this day. Dung, dung, dudung, Du Dung dudang. Aaaargh. LOL

              Seriously though the rest is quite good.

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              • Rob
                Rob commented
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                there was a local TV channel in the late '70s that used the chorus to Birdland as their bumper music (the gay, upbeat part) it was the proverbial earworm. when I was introduced to heavy weather I couldn't stand playing Birdland all the way through because of it and it was their biggest hit.

            • #9
              I have many artist that got way to airplay. And it killed me for life. Eagles for one. Myles perhaps a thread music that's great but I hate hahahha
              analog stuff.
              otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 made new by soren
              otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 1/2 combo made new by soren
              sota sapphire used eminent tech ver 2 arm
              new sota nova table has magnetic levitation platter and full speed control and latest motor same arm as above
              thorens td124 sme ver 2 arm
              thorens td125 sme ver 2 arm
              kenwood direct drive sme ver 2 arm
              phono preamp Ml no 25 all re capped
              speakers cust infinity IRS V , new caps and LPS , magnets etc.
              mark levivson pre no 26 amps no 33
              digital three cust servers , win ser 2016 , AO
              Dacs lampi various

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              • #10
                I bought Heavy Weather when it was released, but can't remember the last time I played it. I should probably give it a spin, but frankly I've got other stuff to play first.
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                • #11
                  I have a few different versions of heavy weather. 45 ORG Rocks out !
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                  • #12
                    I've listened to Heavy Weather many times. I remember noticing that the bass player sounded like Joni's on Hejira. I tried several other Jaco Weather Report lps but never liked as much. I suggest Sweetnighter (pre jaco) and Sportin' Life (post jaco) and also Things Are Getting Better (Zawinul with Adderly and Milt Jackson).

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                    • #13
                      I agree with Ken, early Weather Report is where it's at, although it's less "song" based, more free flowing stuff.
                      If I want to hear Jaco, just get this s/t on 2x45rpm LP, kicks butt and sounds incredible as well!
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                      • #14
                        Whenever anyone says they are getting into a band and want recommendations I always tell them the same thing. Start wherever you want, but only buy one album at a time. Get to know it before you buy another. Don't go out and bulk buy a whole bunch - they will just run into each other and you will lose the cohesion that a single album gives you. Take your time. Take a year and explore the group slowly.

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                        • Alex Siufy
                          Alex Siufy commented
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                          Yes, yes! It's a consequence of having all that information avaiable instantaneously... People just go through tracks, not full albums... I've lost count on the kids who come here to store and ask for a specific SONG, and then I have to go and find out which album it's from...

                          Specially during the 70s, albums were made to be appreciated as a whole, not scattered tracks here and there...

                      • #15
                        Heavy Weather got me into 70s fusion jazz in the first place. I love that era. Have grabbed a bunch of used lps from then as well. Joe Sample, Bob James, Metheny, Spyro etc. Later on in the 80s it was all about Chick Corea Electric Band/DiMeola Return to Forever and modern Miles Davis. Just picked up Amandla on vinyl and it sounds awesome.
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