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    Supertramp - Paris

    Now playing a live album recorded in Nov. 1979 from Supertramp, "Paris". Since it was recorded relatively late in their career, it contains songs from
    both of their essential albums, Crime of the Century and Breakfast in America. Double Lp. Excellent performances, good but not great sound. Anyone else have this one?
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    I sure do! I'm a huge Supertramp fan and have all of their albums with multiple pressings in many cases. This album has cuts from Crime of the Century, Crisis? What Crisis?, Even In The Quietest Moments, Breakfast In America, plus one song "You Started Laughing" that was the B side to Lady, but never made it on any studio album. It's not an audiophile-grade pressing, but it more than holds it's own. My copy is likely different than yours as I have the Canadian original release which was cut at The Lacquer Channel in Toronto, but still mastered by Bernie Grundman when he was at A&M.

    The US, Canadian and Europe pressings were all mastered by BG, but the UK pressing was not. It was mastered by Tone (Tony Bridge) at A&M. One day I'd like to source out the Europe copy as the pressing was done in Holland.
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      BTW, I was playing some of my Supertramp stuff this morning and found a 45 rpm direct disk single of Cannonball cut by BG. AWESOME sound. Have you heard that?
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      • Johnny Vinyl
        #3.1
        Johnny Vinyl commented
        07-07-2016, 12:47 PM
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        I have not. Any info on this? I might like to seek that out.
    • #4
      "Cannonball" is a track from the 80's. The record has a vocal version on side 1 and an instrumental version on side 2. It's 45 rpm both sides. BG mastered. Side 1 is Direct to Disk.
      Cannonball D2D by Supertramp
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      • Johnny Vinyl
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        Johnny Vinyl commented
        07-07-2016, 01:53 PM
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        Thanks for this ! . Will see what's out there......
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      warning - do not confuse this 12" single which is d2d with the standard 7" single which is not d2d.
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        Originally posted by JCOConnell View Post
        warning - do not confuse this 12" single which is d2d with the standard 7" single which is not d2d.
        I won't!
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        • #7
          Just popped on side 3. Dreamer...sounds fantastic. I forgot how much enjoy this lp.
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          • JCOConnell
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            JCOConnell commented
            07-08-2016, 09:13 PM
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            I love the music, but on my copy, the entire thing sounds like the highs are rolled a little, could be I just got a bad or late stamper.
        • #8
          I have both vinyl albums from when they were released. Brother where you Bound is reference quality sound.

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          • #9
            Originally posted by Metamatic View Post
            I have both vinyl albums from when they were released. Brother where you Bound is reference quality sound.
            you have Paris and Brother where you Bound or you have Paris and the 12" D2D single of Cannonball?
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            • #10
              Originally posted by JCOConnell View Post

              you have Paris and Brother where you Bound or you have Paris and the 12" D2D single of Cannonball?

              The two albums. No 12 inch.

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              • #11
                I also have Brother where you Bound but haven't listened to it in years. I read on allmusic.com that the title track is a collaboration with David Gilmour. Even though this album is from 1985, it must be analog master recording if it sounds so good.
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                • Johnny Vinyl
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                  Johnny Vinyl commented
                  07-08-2016, 01:15 PM
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                  I can't be certain, but I do believe it was done in the analogue domain.
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                I just bought a sealed copy of the 12" 45 RPM version of Cannonball which is supposed to D2D. If this is truly D2D, I will be amazed. Anybody have info on the recording session and how it was cut? And yes, Brother Where You Bound is a fun album that sounds damn good.
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                • #13
                  Originally posted by mep View Post
                  I just bought a sealed copy of the 12" 45 RPM version of Cannonball which is supposed to D2D. If this is truly D2D, I will be amazed. Anybody have info on the recording session and how it was cut? And yes, Brother Where You Bound is a fun album that sounds damn good.
                  I'm skeptical too, but it sounds awesome and it says direct to disk version right on the jacket, so if it isn't, they are big liars. I have the record but its hard to read the jacket because its a black jacket and its still in its original shrinkwrap. I have no info on the recording session.
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                  • #14
                    Does it sound like a live recording? D2D has to be recorded live in one take whether it's in a studio or a venue.
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                    • #15
                      Originally posted by mep View Post
                      Does it sound like a live recording? D2D has to be recorded live in one take whether it's in a studio or a venue.
                      It sounds like a studio recording as the performance is tight. But the recording is somewhat dry, like in a studio, not a venue. The sound is very dynamic and clear. Could be D2D.
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