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    I see many are starting to move to Furutech's new GTX NCF receptacles and having installed 100's of the previous GTX and quite a few of the new NCF version......something I found with both versions when using 10 gauge solid conductors is getting secure connection when connecting through the push in position......the conductor tends to loosen up a smidge when pushing the outlet back into the wall box because of the stiffnes of the 10 gauge wire.

    I started to use the side screws and this worked better then the push in position but noticed the contact area not to my liking so I tried the Furutech FP-209 narrow spade connectors, there available in gold or rhodium with great results, plenty of contact area. Anyone in the electrical field know's using crimp spades with 10 gauge solid wire is a no no (I'm a certified electrician 30 years)......they also tend to loosen over time due the expasion and contraction of the solid wire. This has not been the case with the FP-209 narrow connectors, however you need a heavy duty type crimper, I use a small hydralic type found at any tool store or even on Amazon for $25-$40

    When I built my listening room and installed the GTX's I used the FP-209 narrow spade connectors and now that the new GTX outlets are available I'm swapping out to these......As I'm getting into changing to the new outlets I checked on how secure the FP-209 remained in this time, I'm happy to find the connections were as snug as when I first installed them. The only issue is working in tight quarters with the crimper as it takes both hands to crimp so you just need to be patient. Anyway just thought I share my findings and as always YMMV and try at your own risk
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    Last edited by A/V Solutions; 02-12-2016, 12:13 PM.
    Jeff Whitlock
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    Great suggestion. Al here is a licensed electrician though rules may be different from state to state.
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    • #3
      I normaly wouldn't use solid wire with crimp connectors, especially with a small T&B, Ideal, Klien type crimper......the Hydralic one's crimp to about 10 tons or more, a nice cold weld for sure. There are gray areas with all this.....I guess no different than all the non UL approved audiophile power cords in use
      Last edited by A/V Solutions; 02-12-2016, 02:19 PM.
      Jeff Whitlock
      A/V Solutions

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      • #4
        Probably old news about the GTX NCF's now, but just thought I'd chime in.
        3 new duplexes were installed by my electrician yesterday.
        I'm embarrassed to say, that I did not remember what the characteristics
        were that others had reported ( here and elsewhere) : it had been awhile
        (months) since I first started thinking about getting these.
        Anyway - as soon as everything was "fired up", my reaction was :
        " Oh that's definitely different - and better; tighter bass; cleaner sound."
        Was nice to see that comported well with others after I went back to look.
        We'll see how they progress over the next several weeks but for
        a first impression, very pleased.



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        • #5
          Originally posted by Andy View Post
          Probably old news about the GTX NCF's now, but just thought I'd chime in.
          3 new duplexes were installed by my electrician yesterday.
          I'm embarrassed to say, that I did not remember what the characteristics
          were that others had reported ( here and elsewhere) : it had been awhile
          (months) since I first started thinking about getting these.
          Anyway - as soon as everything was "fired up", my reaction was :
          " Oh that's definitely different - and better; tighter bass; cleaner sound."
          Was nice to see that comported well with others after I went back to look.
          We'll see how they progress over the next several weeks but for
          a first impression, very pleased.


          So glad to hear the Furutechs worked out Andy! The drop in the noise floor is absolutely unmistakable. All of a sudden, you hear things and instruments that simply weren't previously there!

          It's my impression that the sound of the receptacles improves with time, but not nearly as much as the old GTX-D Au. Let us know how things work out!
          Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
          Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
          ________________________________________

          -Magico S5 Mk.2 speakers with SPod feet
          -Goldmund Telos 280 stereo amp
          -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
          -Doshi V3.0 phonostage
          -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
          -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
          -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
          -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
          -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 5, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
          -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA platforms.

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          • #6
            Gave my power amp duplex some NCF love yesterday. Hopefully I will notice an improvement once broken in over my GTX Rhodium plugs.
            Christian
            System Gear

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rockitman View Post
              Gave my power amp duplex some NCF love yesterday. Hopefully I will notice an improvement once broken in over my GTX Rhodium plugs.


              You should hear some improvements right away, others qualities with time.
              Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
              Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
              ________________________________________

              -Magico S5 Mk.2 speakers with SPod feet
              -Goldmund Telos 280 stereo amp
              -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
              -Doshi V3.0 phonostage
              -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
              -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
              -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
              -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
              -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 5, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
              -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA platforms.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post



                You should hear some improvements right away, others qualities with time.
                Improvements ? What should I be looking for ?
                Christian
                System Gear

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rockitman View Post

                  Improvements ? What should I be looking for ?
                  Since you were going from pre-existing Furutech (as say opposed a normal outlet), the changes are not quite as great but you should hear a lower noise floor, more transparency and even better low level resolution. Try a tape you know well with either dense orchestration or like I did, the Smoke and Mirrors tape from Yarlung. You will hear instruments playing softly in the mix you never knew were there before. The most extreme, subtle detail that were buried in the mix are now revealed.
                  Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                  Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                  ________________________________________

                  -Magico S5 Mk.2 speakers with SPod feet
                  -Goldmund Telos 280 stereo amp
                  -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                  -Doshi V3.0 phonostage
                  -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                  -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                  -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                  -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                  -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 5, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
                  -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA platforms.

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