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  • Outer Rings

    What about outer rings? Does anyone other than VPI make these? If so please tell me I would like to get one for my TT setup.


  • #2
    Good question. The one company making outer ring clamps for other tables, TTWeights, is out of business. Maybe one will come up on Agon. My friend did compare the TTW/Copper ring to his VPI though and preferred the latter.

    So guess you might call Peter and ask if any of the clamps made say by VPI, Clearaudio, Kuzma, Merrill-Williams, etc. would work with your table.
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    • #3
      I can't imagine not using one for a tt that has no vacuum hold down and is of the type that works well with the added weight of a ring.
      Christian
      System Gear

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      • #4
        Merrill-Williams makes on that works with the REAL 101.2 table, but I don't know if it fits other tables. You could call George Merrill at 901-209-0796 to find out.
        Speakers: Daedalus Apollo 11 and Daedalus Athena v.2
        Turntables: J. Sikora Initial Max with KV12 tonearm, Merrill-Williams REAL 101.3 with Sorane 1.2 tonearm
        Cartridges: Soundsmith Paua II ES, Hana Umami Red
        Phono pre: Doshi EVO
        Digital Sources: NAD M50.2 server/ripper, Oppo/Modwright 105
        DAC: Lampizator Amber 3
        Preamp: Doshi EVO
        Amplifiers: Linear Tube Audio Ultra linear+ mono blocks
        Power conditioning: PS Audio Power Plant 15
        Cables: Skogrand and Wywires Platinum
        Stand: Box Furniture
        Accessories: Daedalus, ISOAcoustics, and Gingko isolation devices, Degritter rcm

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post
          Good question. The one company making outer ring clamps for other tables, TTWeights, is out of business. Maybe one will come up on Agon. My friend did compare the TTW/Copper ring to his VPI though and preferred the latter.

          So guess you might call Peter and ask if any of the clamps made say by VPI, Clearaudio, Kuzma, Merrill-Williams, etc. would work with your table.
          Myles, Peter is a ghost!! No where to be found!!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jcmusic View Post

            Myles, Peter is a ghost!! No where to be found!!

            OK I heard he can be hard to track down.

            Maybe Wes Bender, a nice guy and Red Point dealer in NY, can help you out?
            Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
            Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
            ________________________________________

            -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
            -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
            -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
            -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
            -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
            -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
            -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
            -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
            -Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
            -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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            • #7
              I use the clear audio ring and centre weight I have not tried any other ring but I have tried 2 other weights and the clear audio weight is the best so far.

              Not much help but it is my 2 cents worth the other weights were a old Sota clamp and a HRS the clear audio was way better with my rig

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              • #8
                Have no idea about them but they have a model for sale;

                http://www.soundfountain.com/amb/ttring.html

                PS looks like this isn't made any more
                Last edited by Beaur; 03-15-2016, 09:16 PM.
                Turntable: - 1. Fairchild 750/OMA slate plinth
                2. Analog Engineering AE-2008 MinusK support.
                Tonearm: 1. Schroder Custom
                2. Schick 12"
                3. Abis SA-1
                Cartridge: Miyajima Kansui and Premium BE Mono
                PhonoPre: AprilSound LR, EMIA Strain Gauge, EMIA silver SUT
                CD: Wadia 860x
                Server: Innuos Zen Mini Mk3
                DAC: Computer Audio Design 1543 Mk2
                Preamp: Bent Audio TAP-X w silver autoformers
                Amplifier: AprilSound SET50 monoblocks
                Speaker: Pioneer PAX-30C

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Beaur View Post
                  Have no idea about them but they have a model for sale;

                  http://www.soundfountain.com/amb/ttring.html

                  PS looks like this isn't made any more
                  They replied to my email and confirmed that they no longer are making them...

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                  • #10
                    Looks like I may have to make one at work, or get the head machinist to make one for me...

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                    • #11
                      Has anyone had an issue with the thin rim of their ring clamps getting bent and not effectively clamping the album? I usually gently lean my outer ring clamp against something when changing records. A while ago, I noticed the clamp wasn't working well and upon further inspection, noticed some parts of the ring that were bent. Very carefully straightened them with some pliers and the clamp worked again. Lately was finding the same thing, and though more subtle and needed to once again restraighten. Now this might not seem a big deal but whatever I did, the turntable sounds so much better tonight. Body and space are really improved. Just another example of the importance of keeping that record flat and carefully clamped to the platter making a real difference.
                      Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                      Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                      ________________________________________

                      -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                      -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
                      -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                      -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                      -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                      -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                      -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
                      -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                      -Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
                      -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post
                        Has anyone had an issue with the thin rim of their ring clamps getting bent and not effectively clamping the album? I usually gently lean my outer ring clamp against something when changing records. A while ago, I noticed the clamp wasn't working well and upon further inspection, noticed some parts of the ring that were bent. Very carefully straightened them with some pliers and the clamp worked again. Lately was finding the same thing, and though more subtle and needed to once again restraighten. Now this might not seem a big deal but whatever I did, the turntable sounds so much better tonight. Body and space are really improved. Just another example of the importance of keeping that record flat and carefully clamped to the platter making a real difference.

                        Exactly!!! so help me find one that will work with my TT!!! Please LOL!!!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jcmusic View Post


                          Exactly!!! so help me find one that will work with my TT!!! Please LOL!!!
                          I would call Wes. Even if he can't get you in touch with Peter, he may be able to suggest the right clamp for the table.
                          Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                          Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                          ________________________________________

                          -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                          -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
                          -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                          -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                          -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                          -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                          -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
                          -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                          -Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
                          -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post

                            I would call Wes. Even if he can't get you in touch with Peter, he may be able to suggest the right clamp for the table.

                            I sent an email to Wes earlier today have not back from him yet...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jcmusic View Post


                              I sent an email to Wes earlier today have not back from him yet...
                              Great!
                              Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                              Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                              ________________________________________

                              -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                              -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
                              -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                              -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                              -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                              -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                              -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
                              -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                              -Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
                              -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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