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  • Ultrasonic Record Cleaning Machines

    Some recent reports:

    Audio Deske

    http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue66/audio_desk.htm

    KLaudio

    http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue69/klaudio.htm

    http://www.positive-feedback.com/Iss...io_cleaner.htm
    Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
    Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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    -Magico S5 Mk.2 speakers with SPod feet
    -Goldmund Telos 280 stereo amp
    -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
    -Doshi V3.0 phonostage
    -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
    -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
    -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
    -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
    -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 5, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
    -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA platforms.

  • #2
    Hey Myles have you seen the KL that now has an changer rack? A lazy guy's dream come true!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by JackD201 View Post
      Hey Myles have you seen the KL that now has an changer rack? A lazy guy's dream come true!
      The bad thing is that it costs almost as much as the machine!

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      • #4
        Visited KLaudio yesterday and had lunch. Thier UT cleaner is getting lots of attention in Japan with one of the reviewers from the Stereo Sound magazine using it openly. Not too surprisingly, most of the changers are bought by LP stores. Peter tells me some of them are cleaning LPs 24 hours a day. Interestingly the machines are holding up to the heavy uses and the LP stores have requested for continuous water flow system to go with the changer so that they won't have to exchange the water. Now that's lazy if you ask me.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bruce B View Post

          The bad thing is that it costs almost as much as the machine!
          Sure did. They had been working on that for a while. Great for someone, a stores or an institution with a whole ton of records,
          Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
          Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
          ________________________________________

          -Magico S5 Mk.2 speakers with SPod feet
          -Goldmund Telos 280 stereo amp
          -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
          -Doshi V3.0 phonostage
          -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
          -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
          -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
          -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
          -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 5, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
          -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA platforms.

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          • #6
            So which one do I want? Pros and cons please?

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            • #7
              If you don't mind a little extra work.

              http://thevinylstack.com/ultrasonic-...-cleaning-kit/
              Marty

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jcmusic View Post
                So which one do I want? Pros and cons please?
                Maybe MikeL can jump in here too. I think some of the differences betwenn the original AD and KLaudio are directly traceable to one using a surfactant in the water and one using just pure water. I remember MikeL talking about how he reduced the additive to the AD with good results. I think if you look on the net, you'll see that people had issues with AD reliabiliy so it will be interesting if they have better Q/C in the new version.
                Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                ________________________________________

                -Magico S5 Mk.2 speakers with SPod feet
                -Goldmund Telos 280 stereo amp
                -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                -Doshi V3.0 phonostage
                -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 5, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
                -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA platforms.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jcmusic View Post
                  So which one do I want? Pros and cons please?
                  Jay, if you would post photos of your Redpoint Model D, I'll tell you which one.

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                  • #10
                    I think AD is coming out with a new model soon, so the current model is discounted somewhat. But they did have reliability problems. The KL is built like a tank and worked reliably for me from day 1.
                    Kronos Sparta -> Trinity Phono -> Trinity Pre -> CH Precision A1 -> Magico S7s

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bruce B View Post

                      The bad thing is that it costs almost as much as the machine!
                      Ouch!

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                      • #12
                        buy audio desk at your own risk. I wouldn't recommend it even if discounted 70%. Out of the 7 units brought in by my country distributor 5 developed problems within 3 months. took a long while to repair. when mine developed problem the 2nd time, AD owner , Reiner don't even bother to acknowledge distributor or my email. So I decided to test him by enquiring abt 10 unit purchase. My email was acknowledged within 1-2 hours where else my repeated email over months enquiring about repair was intentionally ignored. Such manufacturer shouldn't be supported at all

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                        • #13
                          buy audio desk at your own risk. I wouldn't recommend it even if discounted 70%. Out of the 7 units brought in by my country distributor 5 developed problems within 3 months. took a long while to repair. when mine developed problem the 2nd time, AD owner , Reiner don't even bother to acknowledge distributor or my email. So I decided to test him by enquiring abt 10 unit purchase. My email was acknowledged within 1-2 hours where else my repeated email over months enquiring about repair was intentionally ignored. Such manufacturer shouldn't be supported at all

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                          • #14
                            other than my gripe about the poorly supported & unreliable AD, I highly recommend ultrasonic cleaner for LP cleaning duty. I have 2 other RCM ie Loricraft & VPI 17f. Nothing beat ultrasonic cleaner for its convenience . Probably time to buy KL audio . So far have not heard any complaint abt this brand

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                            • #15
                              I traded mine in so I can try another machine, but the KL was 100% reliable for the time I used it. No issues.
                              Kronos Sparta -> Trinity Phono -> Trinity Pre -> CH Precision A1 -> Magico S7s

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