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    **Audio Intelligent Enzymatic Cleaner (Step 1 of 3)

    Audio Intelligent Super Cleaner (Step 2 of 3)

    Audio Intelligent Ultra-Pure Water (Step 3 of 3)

    Audio Intelligent Premium One Step No 15 (precleaner for either multi-step or No 6)

    **Audio Intelligent Premium One Step No 6

    **Audio Intelligent Down With Dirty Record Cleaning Concentrate


    Clearaudio Pure Groove (note: two versions, one for domestic and export use; export is concentrate)


    Disc Doctor Record Cleaning Fluid

    Hannl (concentrate) for point nozzle machines (thanks to Bill Hart for the info)


    Keith Monks Discovery
    Keith Monks Discovery Break the Mold


    *L'Art Du Son


    LAST #1 Power Cleaner

    LAST #3 Record Cleaner


    Mobile Fidelity One (for those without a RCM)

    Mobile Fidelity Deep Cleaner

    Mobile Fidelity Super Record Wash

    **Mobile Fidelity Plus Enzyme Cleaner

    Mobile Fidelity Pure Record Rinse


    Nitty Gritty First Pre-Cleaner

    Nitty Gritty Pure 1

    Nitty Gritty Deep Clean


    **Recordtime


    Spin Clean


    Walker Audio Prelude Record Cleaning System


    VPI Record Cleaning Solution

    *VPI Record Cleaning Concentrate



    Note, this fluids are for vinyl, not shellac LPs

    *Add to purified water for final mix
    **Denotes enzymatic cleaner
    Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
    Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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    -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
    -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
    -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
    -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
    -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
    -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
    -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
    -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
    -Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
    -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

  • #2
    I've been using Disc Doctor Record Cleaning Fluid for years.


    Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver Interconnects

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    • #3
      I was struck by the fact that there were five companies making record cleaning fluid when I did my survey for Sounds Like... Magazine back in the mid-'90s. Now there are 12 companies (if I didn't miss any) making RCFs. Who wudda thought 20 years later??? And how many companies making RCMs and they fly off the shelves?!?!
      Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
      Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
      ________________________________________

      -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
      -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
      -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
      -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
      -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
      -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
      -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
      -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
      -Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
      -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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      • #4
        Groovy HiFi Solutions TM-8 record cleaning fluid (http://www.groovyhi-fi.com/tm-8/) by sheila Berdan. I just tried this and it seems to work really well on a VPI cleaner.
        Steve Lefkowicz
        Senior Associate Editor at Positive Feedback
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        Analog 1: Linn LP12 (MOSE/Hercules II), Ittok, Dynavector 10X5 MK.II Low, iPhono2/iPowerX; Analog 2: Pro-Ject RPM-1 Carbon, Talisman S, iFi iPhono.
        Digital: Geekom Mini PC (i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, JRiver Media Center 29, Tidal HiFi, Qobuz Studio), iFi NEO iDSD, iFi iUSB3, iPurifier2, Audioquest Jitterbug FMJ.
        Electronics: Jolida Fusion (fully upgraded) line-stage
        ​, DIY passive line-stage, Antique Sound Labs MG-SI15DT-S, Burson Timekeeper Virtuoso
        Speakers: Tekton Perfect SET 15, Tekton Lore, Magneplaner .7
        Interconnects: Morrow Audio MA1, Vermouth Audio Black Pearl, Audioquest Evergreen
        Speaker cables: WyWyres Diamond, Morrow Audio SP4, Vermouth Audio Red Velvet, Audioquest Type 5
        Digital cables: Aural Symphonics USB, iFi Gemini twin-head USB.
        Accessories: Sound Organization turntable shelf, Mondo racks, Pangea Audio Vulcan rack, Pi Audio Group Über BUSS, Monster HTS2000 power conditioner, Kinetronics anti-static brush, Pro-Ject VC-S record cleaner, Spin Clean record cleaner.
        Headphones: Schiit Valhalla amp, Burson Conductor Virtuoso Amp, Meze Audio 99 Classic and 99 Neo, Beyerdynamic DT770Pro 600 ohm, 1More Triple Driver Over Ear, 1More Triple Driver IEM

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        • Bill Hart
          Bill Hart commented
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          I've got an almost full bottle that I bought from Brooks' store. Haven't used it enough to meaningfully evaluate. It was supposed to be an update of Torumat, right?

        • MylesBAstor
          MylesBAstor commented
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          I read somewhere (Fremer) that someone had rereleased Torumat. Didn't fare well in my initial RCF survey years ago. In retrospect, the effect was kinda like LAST record preservative.

        • Steve Lefkowicz
          Steve Lefkowicz commented
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          They didn't mention anything about Torumat, but the ingredients on the bottle just list: quad-filtered deionized water, commercial grade surfactants, wetting agents and anti-static additives.

      • #5
        The Hannl - which is sold as a concentrate from Germany- works great on the point nozzle machine, one small bottle makes 2 liters. As far as I know, though there are still some listed dealers in the States, no one had stock when I tried to buy domestically; but it is easy enough to order directly from Hannl.

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        • #6
          Originally posted by Bill Hart View Post
          The Hannl - which is sold as a concentrate from Germany- works great on the point nozzle machine, one small bottle makes 2 liters. As far as I know, though there are still some listed dealers in the States, no one had stock when I tried to buy domestically; but it is easy enough to order directly from Hannl.
          I'll add to the list.
          Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
          Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
          ________________________________________

          -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
          -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
          -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
          -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
          -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
          -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
          -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
          -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
          -Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
          -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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          • #7
            I use the Mofi Super Record Wash. It does the job.

            Dynavector DV20x2L MC cartridge - Genesis G7.1f speakers - Marantz Reference PM-KI-Pearl Int. Amp. - Oracle Audio Paris MkV turntable - Various Morrow & Valab/King cables

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            • #8
              AI No. 15 for me when I do a prescrub then dry (all records entering my room for the first time). The final step is KL Audio.
              Christian
              System Gear

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              • #9
                Here's my extensive review of Audio Intelligent products and comparison with the Lloyd Walker's Prelude system.

                I've tried most of these cleaning products with various record cleaning machines and mostly with a Loricraft PRC-3 point nozzle machine. Imo, Audio Intelligent (AIVS) cleaners used with NERL Reagent Grade water, gave consistently excellent results. Nowadays I do quick cleaning with the Audio Desk Systeme machine.

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                • #10
                  I wrote a message here which turned green when I posted it, claiming it was 'unapproved'. What's up with that? Is the message recoverable. :-(

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                  • MylesBAstor
                    MylesBAstor commented
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                    Yes there is some glitch that am trying to figure out. It was affecting Brian and now you seem to have caught it. So far vbulletin's suggestions haven't helped but there is something else to try as a last resort. That is turning off the spam message protection. Give me until am back from CAF and can talk to them face to face rather than via email to sort the problem out.

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                    Thanks!

                • #11
                  Unity Audio and TTVJ have their own RCFs as well. I use Unity Audio right now and like it over L'art du son and AI. Would like to try Hannl and TTVJ one day (it got some thumbs up on the Steve Hoffman Forums).
                  Kronos Sparta -> Trinity Phono -> Trinity Pre -> CH Precision A1 -> Magico S7s

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                  • #12
                    I have been using Lloyd Walkers 4 step process for years but probably going to change to AI 1-step so I can finish cleaning my records before the grim reaper calls may name. Maybe I will get one of the Ultra sonic machines later this year?
                    Turntable: TW Acustic TT with Ref motor & controller; Tri-Planar Arm; Transfiguration Proteus Cartridge, Harmonix-Combak platter mat & weight; PS Audio Stellar Phono Preamp; KLAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner.
                    Digital: Bluesound Vault-2 Music Server & Streamer
                    Amplification: VTL 6.5 preamp Series II, Pass Labs 150.8 Amp
                    Loudspeakers: Piega C711 Loudspeakers
                    Isolation: Symposium Osiris Rack; Symposium Platforms and Roller Blocks and grade 2.5 Balls
                    Misc: Acoustic Revive RR-888 Low Frequency Pulse Generator, Synergistic Research 12 UEF SE Line Conditioner, Level 3 HC AC Cord and Level 3 Atmosphere power cords, Synergistic Carbon fiber wall plates, Synergistic Research Orange Outlet, Furutech NCF Booster Braces, synergistic Research Galileo and Atmosphere X Euphoria Level 3 Balanced ICs, Synergistic Research Euphoria Level 3 Speaker Cables, Synergistic Research Cable Risers.

                    Sennheiser HDV 650 Headphone Amp; Sennheiser HD800s Headphones.

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                    • 1morerecord2clean
                      1morerecord2clean commented
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                      Thanks Bill. The need for an RCM combined with an USM has kept me from buying an US. I have limited space and I think it's one or the other for me.so I might be hand cleaning until that grim reaper calls. Actually I think they might bury me with my RCM, half bent over with a record in my hands and a bottle of cleaning fluid too.

                    • Bill Hart
                      Bill Hart commented
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                      Two thoughts: DIY type ultrasonic. Save you a bundle and will give you greater flexibility than the commercial ones. Second: i think you'll get better results using the AIVS No. 15 and a pure water rinse than a one step, even a one step by AI.

                    • 1morerecord2clean
                      1morerecord2clean commented
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                      Thank you Bill. I'll try that first when all my other fluids run dry.

                  • #13
                    RE: Audio Intelligent Premium One Step No 6

                    I've been using No. 6 for the past couple of weeks now.

                    On a dare to myself I used a distilled water rinse, and the record surface became more reflective and shiny. I now do a rinse as a result.

                    In addition when getting feedback in another forum several people suggested giving the enzymes more time to work than the 2-3 minutes in the instruction, 5-10 minutes for neglected LP's.

                    Overall happy with it, but have to face the fact that some used records just need to be replaced with a better copy if I am to truly enjoy them.

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                    • #14
                      At present, I am using a pair of Audiodesk Ultrasonic cleaners in tandem, the first with distilled water and the Audiodesk additive fluid, the second with reagent grade water with no additives. The rinse in the reagent grade water is audible in every instance; however, in some instances even that two stage process is not enough. In that event I follow up with either the AI enzyme based cleaner or in some instances their alcohol; based product, with a final pure water rinse. Strangely enough, some contaminants are more susceptible to one method than the other, although the ultrasonic cleaning is often sufficient.
                      Rockport Sirius turntable, Lyra Atlas SL cartridge, Audio Note M9 SE Phono stage, Audio Note M10 (Signature) linestage, EMM Labs TX2/DA2 digital, Audio Note Balanced Kegon amps, EMM Labs MTRX amps, Acapella Triolons, Jorma Prime and Odin 2 cables, Stage 3 Kraken power cords, HB Marble Powerslave, Finite Elemente Pagode Reference stands and Cerabases, Halcyonics active isolation bases, HRS Equipment stand, Stillpoints Ultra 6 footers, Furitech cable isolators and plugs, Loricraft and Audiodesk vinyl cleaners, Yamaha CT7000 Tuner.

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                      • #15
                        I've been using Alconox Liquinox since July, cleaning both used and new records on an RCM (Okki Nokki, and Record Doctor nylon brushes). I don't believe my records could be any cleaner, or more silent, after my usual two rinses. I stopped using my ultrasonic cleaner after hearing the results. I've resigned myself to the drudgery.
                        I see they've jacked the price up $12.00 for the quart size I bought. At this point, it seems to be a lifetime supply.

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                        • pcosta
                          pcosta commented
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                          I just bought some Alconox Linuinox. Can you tell me the amount you use in the amount of water when make your batch?

                        • seamonster
                          seamonster commented
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                          pcosta, my response is on the next page.
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