I've recently started getting master copies of tapes made to cassette, which are physically smaller and more affordable than two-track 15 ips R2R tape. Not everyone believes me, but the sound comes shockingly close to that "tape magic" you get from R2R in something as simple as an un modified Nakamichi CR-3A although I also have a Dragon. I had wanted the R2R of Jacintha's "Autumn Leaves" but ran out of money and room, so got a copy from the last set of dubs of Patricia Barber's "Café Blue" and am otherwise collecting cassettes and vinyl LPs as well as CDs plus high-resolution PCM downloads, at least for now.
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The problem with cassette is it is noisy without noise reduction and adding noise reduction causes new problems.Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver Interconnects
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Originally posted by Galileo View PostI've recently started getting master copies of tapes made to cassette, which are physically smaller and more affordable than two-track 15 ips R2R tape. Not everyone believes me, but the sound comes shockingly close to that "tape magic" you get from R2R in something as simple as an un modified Nakamichi CR-3A although I also have a Dragon. I had wanted the R2R of Jacintha's "Autumn Leaves" but ran out of money and room, so got a copy from the last set of dubs of Patricia Barber's "Café Blue" and am otherwise collecting cassettes and vinyl LPs as well as CDs plus high-resolution PCM downloads, at least for now.Not to mention, most cassette machines really needed to have their heads aligned.
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I used to do a lot of home recording on both cassette and reel to reel ( no longer, I now record digitally with the pc ). Even using metal tape with cassette vs 7.5 ips reel to reel, the cassette always seemed like it was a little strained while the reel was effortless.Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver Interconnects
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I never had a cassette deck in the same zip code as a Dragon. Used my Mom's ReVox when I could. I even went with costly metal tapes to record onto. Commercial tapes here were a disaster. Just shoot me bad. I elected to record from LP. It was what MP3 is for me today, just for convenience. I remember bitching about sound quality along with my cousins. We came up with a funny theory that Cassettes were the reason stereos in the 80s all sprouted graphic equalizers and that people started that flying V pattern on them. Come to think of it, that might have actually been the case.
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Originally posted by JCOConnell View PostThe problem with cassette is it is noisy without noise reduction and adding noise reduction causes new problems.Transrotor Rossini Turntable w/Jelco SA-750DB
Audio Note Io Gold Cart. w/AN-S9 SUT
Audio Note CDT-Four Transport/Woo WDS-1 DAC
Ayre QX-5 Twenty Dig. Hub & 13” MacBook Pro w/Roon w/Melco N1A NAS
AN OTO Phono SE Signature Int. Amp w/AN-E SEC Silver Speakers w/Murata Super Tweeters
Purple J-Corder 1520 R2R and Nakamichi Dragon Cassette Deck
PSAudio P10 AC Regen./Equi=Tech Bal. Transformer
Harmonic Technology, Audio Note, Kondo Sound Labs, Stealth, AQ Cables
Woo GES w/Sfax SR-507 Headphones
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Originally posted by JackD201 View PostI never had a cassette deck in the same zip code as a Dragon. Used my Mom's ReVox when I could. I even went with costly metal tapes to record onto. Commercial tapes here were a disaster. Just shoot me bad. I elected to record from LP. It was what MP3 is for me today, just for convenience. I remember bitching about sound quality along with my cousins. We came up with a funny theory that Cassettes were the reason stereos in the 80s all sprouted graphic equalizers and that people started that flying V pattern on them. Come to think of it, that might have actually been the case.
Transrotor Rossini Turntable w/Jelco SA-750DB
Audio Note Io Gold Cart. w/AN-S9 SUT
Audio Note CDT-Four Transport/Woo WDS-1 DAC
Ayre QX-5 Twenty Dig. Hub & 13” MacBook Pro w/Roon w/Melco N1A NAS
AN OTO Phono SE Signature Int. Amp w/AN-E SEC Silver Speakers w/Murata Super Tweeters
Purple J-Corder 1520 R2R and Nakamichi Dragon Cassette Deck
PSAudio P10 AC Regen./Equi=Tech Bal. Transformer
Harmonic Technology, Audio Note, Kondo Sound Labs, Stealth, AQ Cables
Woo GES w/Sfax SR-507 Headphones
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Originally posted by Bruce B View PostAs good as my Dragon is, it's no match for the R2R Studers!! Not even close.... and I've tried.Analog: VPI Aries 3, custom suspension & platter interface || Magnetically stabilized JMW 10.5i || Ortofon A90, Verismo || Modded & fully shielded Pass XP-25 || VPI SDS speed controller || Magnum Dynalab MD-90SE/105 Digital: Spectral 4000SV Amplification: Spectral DMC-30SV || DMA-500AR Speakers: Custom MartinLogan Cabling: Shielded MIT Oracle 50ic,MA-X,90.1,Shunyata Alpha v2 Other: Shunyata Everest & Sigma/Delta cords; Isodamp, mumetal, 3M AB5100, Dynamat, Copper foil; Vishay diodes, resistors; Mundorf coils & capacitors
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A cassette recorded hard with metal tape can probably match reel to reel with standard tape at 3 3/4 ips but who uses only 3 3/4 ips on reel to reel anymore? At 7.5 or 15 ips on reel to reel with standard tape, its no contest.
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Originally posted by JCOConnell View PostA cassette recorded hard with metal tape can probably match reel to reel with standard tape at 3 3/4 ips but who uses only 3 3/4 ips on reel to reel anymore? At 7.5 or 15 ips on reel to reel with standard tape, its no contest.Transrotor Rossini Turntable w/Jelco SA-750DB
Audio Note Io Gold Cart. w/AN-S9 SUT
Audio Note CDT-Four Transport/Woo WDS-1 DAC
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AN OTO Phono SE Signature Int. Amp w/AN-E SEC Silver Speakers w/Murata Super Tweeters
Purple J-Corder 1520 R2R and Nakamichi Dragon Cassette Deck
PSAudio P10 AC Regen./Equi=Tech Bal. Transformer
Harmonic Technology, Audio Note, Kondo Sound Labs, Stealth, AQ Cables
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Originally posted by JackD201 View PostI never had a cassette deck in the same zip code as a Dragon. Used my Mom's ReVox when I could. I even went with costly metal tapes to record onto. Commercial tapes here were a disaster. Just shoot me bad. I elected to record from LP. It was what MP3 is for me today, just for convenience. I remember bitching about sound quality along with my cousins. We came up with a funny theory that Cassettes were the reason stereos in the 80s all sprouted graphic equalizers and that people started that flying V pattern on them. Come to think of it, that might have actually been the case.
Transrotor Rossini Turntable w/Jelco SA-750DB
Audio Note Io Gold Cart. w/AN-S9 SUT
Audio Note CDT-Four Transport/Woo WDS-1 DAC
Ayre QX-5 Twenty Dig. Hub & 13” MacBook Pro w/Roon w/Melco N1A NAS
AN OTO Phono SE Signature Int. Amp w/AN-E SEC Silver Speakers w/Murata Super Tweeters
Purple J-Corder 1520 R2R and Nakamichi Dragon Cassette Deck
PSAudio P10 AC Regen./Equi=Tech Bal. Transformer
Harmonic Technology, Audio Note, Kondo Sound Labs, Stealth, AQ Cables
Woo GES w/Sfax SR-507 Headphones
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Originally posted by Galileo View Post
Respectfully, I disagree. First, I think Chromium Dioxide tape sounds better than metal. Secondly, I don't use the playback decoding and EQ settings the way you're supposed to. The result is that a cassette dubbed from a master tape sounds as close to a live microphone feed as my two track, 15 ips tapes do.Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver Interconnects
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Originally posted by JCOConnell View Post
cassette has way more wow and flutter and a lower S/N ratio than 15 ips open reel tapeTransrotor Rossini Turntable w/Jelco SA-750DB
Audio Note Io Gold Cart. w/AN-S9 SUT
Audio Note CDT-Four Transport/Woo WDS-1 DAC
Ayre QX-5 Twenty Dig. Hub & 13” MacBook Pro w/Roon w/Melco N1A NAS
AN OTO Phono SE Signature Int. Amp w/AN-E SEC Silver Speakers w/Murata Super Tweeters
Purple J-Corder 1520 R2R and Nakamichi Dragon Cassette Deck
PSAudio P10 AC Regen./Equi=Tech Bal. Transformer
Harmonic Technology, Audio Note, Kondo Sound Labs, Stealth, AQ Cables
Woo GES w/Sfax SR-507 Headphones
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