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Would you trust the purchase of a higher end cart that has had a cartridge re-tip from Soundsmith? Any experiences?
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a phono cartridge is not something I would want to buy second hand, no matter how cheap the deal.Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver Interconnects -
sometimes on retips they replace the entire cantilever, in that case, youre getting a Frankencart.Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver InterconnectsComment
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I have what you'd call a "Frankencart" its a Koetsu Rosewood with a complete rebuild from Andy at Needle Clinc (new cantilever/stylus) it sounds better than I recall it ever did, even when new.Originally posted by JCOConnell View PostComment
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Lloyd Walker has had some of his customers send damaged cartridges to Soundsmith with exxcellent results. Lloyd says they often sound better than the original.Turntable: TW Acustic TT with Ref motor & controller; Tri-Planar Arm; Transfiguration Proteus Cartridge, Harmonix-Combak platter mat & weight; PS Audio Stellar Phono Preamp; KLAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner.
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No doubt the results of a Frankencart can exceed the original design, but I believe they can also fall short of the original too.Originally posted by Rob View PostMagnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver InterconnectsComment
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Possibly in some cases but not Peter/Soundsmith The man is a genius. And I am not saying that glibly.Originally posted by JCOConnell View Post
Now will ill it sound like the original is another story?
I think Trust is asking though will the cartridge stand the test of time. I think that Soundsmith stands by their work and owners should experience normal cartridge life expectancy and trouble free operation.Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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-Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
-Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
-Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
-Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
-VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
-VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
-Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
-Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
-Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
-Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.Comment
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Thanks. I think if the cart were a total rebuild I would be less hesitant. This was just a re-tip, which I imagine is more complicated. The seller offers a 7 day return policy. Enough time to get it under a microscope and play test.Comment
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If its only the tip, and the suspension is good, and the work was done by Soundsmith. Yes.SOURCE: VINYL - EAT C-Sharp with, EAT LPS power supply, My Sonic Lab Signature Gold
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This is the cart in question, says 250 hours. Thoughts?
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I wouldn't take the chance on this cartridge. Are you locked in a Dynavector? -
I would like to try Dynavector or Koetsu. I know they are different, just trying to expand my cartridge experiences. Currently have a Lyra Skala, and have had an Ortofon. I do have a Dynavector 20XH coming in to give a try. -
I used to keep alot of cartridges around. I've owned some of both. XV-1s, XXI MKII, 17D3, Karat from Dynavector. The RSP and Black from Koetsu. I've also had the Delos and Kleos here. A lot of these were here at the same time, or close to it. Others too. If you have any questions about the differences I heard between any of them you can message me and I will help all I can.
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PASS! Besides its way too expensive for a 3rd party re-tipped cartridge.Originally posted by advanced101 View Post
davidManufacturer: American Sound Turntables and The Nothing Racks
Special Sales: van den Hul Cartridges
Industry Representation: Lamm, Kharma OLS Speakers, Ortofon, ZYX, Jensen Transformers
Unique Items: Vintage Horn Speakers
http://www.audionirvana.org/forum/ti...stening-room-1
http://www.audionirvana.org/forum/ti...earfield-setupComment
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What would be an appropriate price, not trying to low ball the guy.Originally posted by david k View Post
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It's basically worth less than or about the price of the re-tip, I wouldn't pay more than $300-$400 max for it. Very different story if it was refurbished by the factory, in that case you're basically getting a new cartridge. You have no idea what you're buying here, and you'll have the same problem if you had to sell it again.Originally posted by advanced101 View Post
davidLast edited by david k; 08-26-2016, 12:35 PM.Manufacturer: American Sound Turntables and The Nothing Racks
Special Sales: van den Hul Cartridges
Industry Representation: Lamm, Kharma OLS Speakers, Ortofon, ZYX, Jensen Transformers
Unique Items: Vintage Horn Speakers
http://www.audionirvana.org/forum/ti...stening-room-1
http://www.audionirvana.org/forum/ti...earfield-setupComment
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Thanks for the help everyone. I ended up finding a slightly used Benz LP-S, based off recommendations from this forum. Will be interesting to compare to my Lyra Skala when it comes back from a rebuild.Comment
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