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  • What Tool Do You Use To Set Azimuth

    Are you using the Fozgometer? Or are you using the Adjust+? Or do you use both or something else? Has anyone compared the results of trying both? Does anyone set their azimuth to 0 and leave it there?

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    I have my dealer do cartridge changes/adjustments as I no longer feel comfortable doing it myself.
    Dynavector DV20x2L MC cartridge - Genesis G7.1f speakers - Marantz Reference PM-KI-Pearl Int. Amp. - Oracle Audio Paris MkV turntable - Various Morrow & Valab/King cables

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    • #3
      Fozgometer, but if I had to do it again, I would splurge and buy Adjust+

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      • #4
        I use my ears...

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        • #5
          Adjust+

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          • #6
            Originally posted by spinblackcircle View Post
            Fozgometer, but if I had to do it again, I would splurge and buy Adjust+
            Can you tell me why???

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jazdoc View Post
              I use my ears...
              I believe in using my ears but, you need a base or starting point in my opinion...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by advanced101 View Post
                Adjust+
                Have you ever tried the Fozgometer???

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jcmusic View Post

                  Have you ever tried the Fozgometer???
                  Yes, seemed pretty basic and I felt that I could get it closer with the Adjust+. Also, I can take screenshots of my settings for when I swap carts or make other adjustments. You can also use the program to adjust the speed of your table.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by advanced101 View Post

                    Yes, seemed pretty basic and I felt that I could get it closer with the Adjust+. Also, I can take screenshots of my settings for when I swap carts or make other adjustments. You can also use the program to adjust the speed of your table.
                    Ok thanks, adjusting the speed nice option!!! Let me ask you how you feel about this, when using either one of these devices/programs a test record is needed. So you are adjusting the azimuth to the test records track/tracks, how much difference do you think there is between the test tracks and a real album playing the spectrum of music? When using the test record I think most are set to 1khz???

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                    • #11
                      I believe that we don't know what is true when playing real music. We have an idea of where things are placed and should sound. Also, there might be other imbalances in your channels or room and will compensate with azimuth. I'm not knocking anyone who does it by ear, but for me quantitative data is the only thing I can trust.

                      Let me give you one example. I was called you help with a high end system. The owner was saying that he setup his cartridge azimuth by ear and it turned out the cart ended up being rotated quite a bit and was not confident with the setup. Turns out that his right speaker was 2" closer to the listening position than the left. After we adjusted the speakers and went through Azimuth+ everything was great and he only needed a little bit of azimuth adjustment from the neutral position.

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                      • #12
                        Fozgometer here and Acoustic Sounds Test Tracks. Used to do it only by ear but IMO much better result using Foz and ear combined. I calibrated my Foz based on MFs discovery that the Foz factory setting was off at least in some units.
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                        • #13
                          I have Adjust + but haven't got around to testing it out fully. I don't know how common this is, but you could experience a problem setting it up. The output signal from the test record/phono stage with my cartridge overloaded the external sound card I was using. I had to pad the test signal down with some resistors. Other than that it looks very easy to use.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 1morerecord2clean View Post
                            Fozgometer here and Acoustic Sounds Test Tracks. Used to do it only by ear but IMO much better result using Foz and ear combined. I calibrated my Foz based on MFs discovery that the Foz factory setting was off at least in some units.
                            Do you have a link or some info on the MF discovery???

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Barry View Post
                              I have Adjust + but haven't got around to testing it out fully. I don't know how common this is, but you could experience a problem setting it up. The output signal from the test record/phono stage with my cartridge overloaded the external sound card I was using. I had to pad the test signal down with some resistors. Other than that it looks very easy to use.
                              Why were you using an external card, shouldn't you have been using the internal card in the PC/Laptop?

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                              • Barry
                                Barry commented
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                                I read somewhere that a high quality exernal soundcard would sound better than the one on a laptop.
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