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  • Anyone hear a Kuzma Car cartridge?

    I'm thinking about a Car 40 or possibly Car 50 for my Stabi M/4 point. Anyone have any experience with them? Not much info out there in internet land. Thanks!

  • #2
    I wonder if, given your investment in Kuzma, Scot could arrange for a dealer to let you borrow a "loaner cartridge" to try....

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    • Jtycho
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      A good thought Bill, thanks.

  • #3
    I heard it at Windsor hifi show and then they switched to Art 9 on kuzma tonearm and latter sounded better

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    • Jtycho
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      Well considering the price that certainly says something for the quality of the Art 9. I'd consider one if I wasn't vehemently opposed to cartridges without threaded holes!

  • #4
    There is also a CAR-60, which looks like it might be a CAR-50 with a diamond cantilever. I'm itching to try the 50 or 60, but too much on my plate for now.

    Here's a CAR-50 review on The Audio Beat.

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    • #5
      Originally posted by Jtycho View Post
      I'm thinking about a Car 40 or possibly Car 50 for my Stabi M/4 point. Anyone have any experience with them? Not much info out there in internet land. Thanks!
      Forget CAR 40. Your turntable/tonearm comobo deserves better. Go for CAR 50 or CAR 60 if you can. I heard both. CAR 50 is an excellent choice but I slightly prefer Benz LPS. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind when it comes to CAR 60 though. It's on a different level, only the price is high.
      Source: Kuzma XL DC/4Point 14 inch/CAR60; Phono: Zanden 1200 Signature; Tuner: Magnum Dynalab MD-108T Signature; Line Stage: Zanden 3000 Mk2; Power amp: Lamm 1.2 Reference; Speakers: AlsyVox Botticelli; Grounding: Tripoint Troy Elite NG; Cable system: Cardas Clear Beyond; Stands: Finite Elemente Master Reference & Master Reference Heavy Duty; Power strip: Cardas Nautilus; Power filter: P.I Audo: BUSS Depot; Acoustics treatment: Svanå Miljöteknik AB (SMT);

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      • Jtycho
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        Thanks Marcus. CAR 60 is off the table for now, but I am going to try to get a demo of the 50.

    • #6
      I'm curious for anyone who has actually heard them, do they have the zyx house sound also or are they unique animals?

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      • Jtycho
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        The older Kuzma cartridges were made by ZYX but I don't think the new ones are.

      • Rob
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        that's what I thought, kuzma and zyx parted ways a while ago.

    • #7
      I heard it at Kuzma's place. Did not compare to the zyx so can't be accurate but did not strike me as the Zyx 4d, universe 1, 2 and premium which I have heard. But without comparing in same system hard to tell tbh

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      • #8
        Originally posted by Spla'nin View Post
        I'm curious for anyone who has actually heard them, do they have the zyx house sound also or are they unique animals?
        Kuzma CAR cartridges are not ZYX, so there's nothing to compare.
        Source: Kuzma XL DC/4Point 14 inch/CAR60; Phono: Zanden 1200 Signature; Tuner: Magnum Dynalab MD-108T Signature; Line Stage: Zanden 3000 Mk2; Power amp: Lamm 1.2 Reference; Speakers: AlsyVox Botticelli; Grounding: Tripoint Troy Elite NG; Cable system: Cardas Clear Beyond; Stands: Finite Elemente Master Reference & Master Reference Heavy Duty; Power strip: Cardas Nautilus; Power filter: P.I Audo: BUSS Depot; Acoustics treatment: Svanå Miljöteknik AB (SMT);

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        • Marcus
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          Don't know. Franc is very secretive about this but he did reveal it's from Japan.

        • Spla'nin
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          I know ten years ago they did have a relationship for a time with shelter and then later ZYX per Doug Deacon
          https://forum.audiogon.com/discussio...-kuzma-and-zyx

        • Marcus
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          True but that is history.

      • #9
        Wonder if anyone has compare the CAR-50 or CAR-60 with Soundsmith's Hyperion? Thanks.

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