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  • #1

    How long does it take for your platter to stop?

    I use two turntables. My belt drive platter stops in about 3 seconds after I turn off the motor - good. My Direct drive however, takes about 10 seconds to stop after I shut off the motor - bad, this is an annoying wait to change /flip records. Is this normal? How long does it take for your platter to stop after turning off the power?

    Addendum: Both turntables start nearly right away (within 2 seconds) when turning the power on.
    Last edited by JCOConnell; 04-30-2016, 09:18 PM.
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  • #2
    I just checked and my Oracle takes 2 seconds.
    Dynavector DV20x2L MC cartridge - Genesis G7.1f speakers - Marantz Reference PM-KI-Pearl Int. Amp. - Oracle Audio Paris MkV turntable - Various Morrow & Valab/King cables

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    • JCOConnell
      #2.1
      JCOConnell commented
      04-30-2016, 12:35 PM
      Editing a comment
      Is it a belt drive?
    • Johnny Vinyl
      #2.2
      Johnny Vinyl commented
      04-30-2016, 12:39 PM
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      Yes.
  • #3
    My Thorens 166 MK II beltdrive stops within 1 second, without the belt it just goes
    My Garrad 301 grease idlerwheel within 20 seconds

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    • #4
      Originally posted by banditcat200 View Post
      My Thorens 166 MK II beltdrive stops within 1 second, without the belt it just goes
      My Garrad 301 grease idlerwheel within 20 seconds
      the Garrard 301 is in good working order and takes 20 seconds to stop?
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      • #5
        Originally posted by JCOConnell View Post

        the Garrard 301 is in good working order and takes 20 seconds to stop?
        When you turn it of , the idlerwheel is disconnected and the platter runs free, so it is actually running perfect for at grease bearing unit.
        A oil based unit will run for longer.
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        • #6
          It will only run like this if the bearing is polished to perfection, else there will be resistance in the bearing.

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          • #7
            My SP-10 MKII stops faster than you can get your fingers off of the start/stop button.
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            • #8
              TW Acustic TT = 5 seconds
              Turntable: TW Acustic TT with Ref motor & controller; Tri-Planar Arm; Transfiguration Proteus Cartridge, Harmonix-Combak platter mat & weight; PS Audio Stellar Phono Preamp; KLAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner.
              Digital: Bluesound Vault-2 Music Server & Streamer
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              • #9
                Originally posted by mep View Post
                My SP-10 MKII stops faster than you can get your fingers off of the start/stop button.
                that's a dd model isn't it? it must have electronic braking.
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                • #10
                  Originally posted by 1morerecord2clean View Post
                  TW Acustic TT = 5 seconds
                  belt or direct drive?
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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by banditcat200 View Post

                    When you turn it of , the idlerwheel is disconnected and the platter runs free, so it is actually running perfect for at grease bearing unit.
                    A oil based unit will run for longer.
                    do you wait for it to stop , or do you grab the clamp and force it to stop? I don't wait
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                    • #12
                      With my LP12, I don't stop it to flip or change records. With no clamp, I just lift the record off the spinning platter. Didn't stop my Rega 2 when I had that, either.
                      Steve Lefkowicz
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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by Steve Lefkowicz View Post
                        With my LP12, I don't stop it to flip or change records. With no clamp, I just lift the record off the spinning platter. Didn't stop my Rega 2 when I had that, either.
                        I use a clamp with both my tables so I have to wait for a stop
                        Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver Interconnects

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by JCOConnell View Post

                          belt or direct drive?
                          Belt.
                          Turntable: TW Acustic TT with Ref motor & controller; Tri-Planar Arm; Transfiguration Proteus Cartridge, Harmonix-Combak platter mat & weight; PS Audio Stellar Phono Preamp; KLAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner.
                          Digital: Bluesound Vault-2 Music Server & Streamer
                          Amplification: VTL 6.5 preamp Series II, Pass Labs 150.8 Amp
                          Loudspeakers: Piega C711 Loudspeakers
                          Isolation: Symposium Osiris Rack; Symposium Platforms and Roller Blocks and grade 2.5 Balls
                          Misc: Acoustic Revive RR-888 Low Frequency Pulse Generator, Synergistic Research 12 UEF SE Line Conditioner, Level 3 HC AC Cord and Level 3 Atmosphere power cords, Synergistic Carbon fiber wall plates, Synergistic Research Orange Outlet, Furutech NCF Booster Braces, synergistic Research Galileo and Atmosphere X Euphoria Level 3 Balanced ICs, Synergistic Research Euphoria Level 3 Speaker Cables, Synergistic Research Cable Risers.

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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by JCOConnell View Post

                            that's a dd model isn't it? it must have electronic braking.

                            Yes and yes. Same holds true for when you start it. It's up to speed before you can get your dick skinners off the button.
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