Ok. This is a strange one but a close audio friend in the biz found this and emailed it to me. Make of it what you will.
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This was on demo at CAF and was on my bucket list of things to investigate but ran out of time. I am a little confused when he says it doesn't make contact with the spindle. I understand it doesn't sit in the LP but it has to rest somehow on the spindle. It can't magically float above the spindle.
Is is it hocus pocus? I don't think so. Will it vary in effect from table to table? Record to record? (Depending on how tight the record center hole was cut) Quite possibly. But I just think it is acting as a sink for vibrations/noise transmitted through the spindle/bearing. (People used to use stethoscopes to check on bearing noise right?) Interestingly, the HiFi Tuning center clamp is not heavy and only has three extremely small contact points with the LP. Yet its effects are unmistakable. http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue52/analog.htm
Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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-Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
-Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
-Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
-Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
-VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
-VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
-Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
-Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
-Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
-Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms. -
This was on demo at CAF and was on my bucket list of things to investigate but ran out of time. I am a little confused when he says it doesn't make contact with the spindle. I understand it doesn't sit in the LP but it has to rest somehow on the spindle. It can't magically float above the spindle.
Is is it hocus pocus? I don't think so. Will it vary in effect from table to table? Record to record? (Depending on how tight the record center hole was cut) Quite possibly. But I just think it is acting as a sink for vibrations/noise transmitted through the spindle/bearing. (People used to use stethoscopes to check on bearing noise right?) Interestingly, the HiFi Tuning center clamp is not heavy and only has three extremely small contact points with the LP. Yet its effects are unmistakable. http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue52/analog.htmMicro Seiki SX-8000 table with flywheel, SME 3012R arm, SME 312S arm, Lyra Etna SL and Dynavector XV-1S cartridges, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 tape deck, Ampex 350 repros, Roon Nucleus Plus server, PS Audio DSJ DAC, ARC Ref 6 pre, ARC Ref 75 amp, Parasound JC5 amp, JBL 4345 speakers, and Def Tech Ref subs.Comment
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I might be dense but it has to contact the spindle somehow since it doesn't touch the record. It has to rest on something. Unless I misunderstood the review.Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
________________________________________
-Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
-Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
-Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
-Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
-VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
-VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
-Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
-Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
-Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
-Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.Comment
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It is touching the record, just not the spindle.Micro Seiki SX-8000 table with flywheel, SME 3012R arm, SME 312S arm, Lyra Etna SL and Dynavector XV-1S cartridges, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 tape deck, Ampex 350 repros, Roon Nucleus Plus server, PS Audio DSJ DAC, ARC Ref 6 pre, ARC Ref 75 amp, Parasound JC5 amp, JBL 4345 speakers, and Def Tech Ref subs.Comment
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Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
________________________________________
-Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
-Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
-Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
-Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
-VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
-VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
-Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
-Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
-Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
-Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.Comment
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It does touch the record. The hole is bigger than the spindle. I bought one from the company owner at one of our meetings.👍 1Comment
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OK my reading comprehension is off today. I need to go back and reread the piece. I'm not sure what the story is then. -
Ok. Enough suspense. You bought one. And? -
It's a pretty tough call, these kind of things are always very difficult for me to hear a difference. It doesn't have a lot of weight so I often use it with an outer ring. I'm also getting to know some new speakers. For me all my clamps sound pretty much the same but I'll keep listening and let you know.
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How stable are they? The thought of one spinning around on a spring suspended table ready to tip over and wipe out a $6K cartridge, is a scary thought.SOURCE: VINYL - EAT C-Sharp with, EAT LPS power supply, My Sonic Lab Signature Gold
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PHONOSTAGE: AudioNet PAM G2 with AudioNet EPX power supply.
PREAMP: Audionet PRE G2.
AMPLIFIER: Audionet MAX monoblocks.
SPEAKERS: YG Acoustics Anat III Signatures (upgraded to Sonja 1.2) JL Audio F112 V2 (x2)
CABLES: Kubala-Sosna, Kubala Sosna Xpander.....Audio Desk Systeme RCM, Adona Rack, GIK & Acoustimac room treatment, IsoacousticsComment
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