David Robinson just published about his 5 year experience with the Wave Kinetics NVS Reference Turntable and the Durand Tonearm Telos. It can be read here:
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Originally posted by Jtinn View PostDavid Robinson just published about his 5 year experience with the Wave Kinetics NVS Reference Turntable and the Durand Tonearm Telos. It can be read here:
http://positive-feedback.com/audio-d...-essay-review/
Indeed, some feel that over-correction was a major issue with the first generation of direct drive tables.
It's also great in this day and age of mono, stereo, multiple stereo arm to have a table that easily accommodates multiple arms!
The NVS table's performance has never ceased to impress me--whether at shows or especially having heard it recently at Mike Lavigne's home--with its sound. I also think that properly implemented direct-drive tables can bring us much closer to the sound of tape than previously thought. Not cheap, but the table really delivers on its promise. Indeed, it's the quietness of tables the current generation of tables is what sets them apart from the tables made just 10 or 20 years ago. But it's also interesting that no matter how well built--NVS, AF1, VPI, Basis--all tables seem to benefit from addition vibration isolation. Wonder just how much isolation is enough (for those who can't put the table in another room anyway--and even there it's not immune).
So will there be a less expensive version of the NVS coming out Jonathan?Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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-Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
-Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
-Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
-Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
-VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
-VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
-Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
-Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
-Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
-Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.
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Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post
I still find the comeback/resurrection of direct-drive turntables amusing. Direct drive tables, like saturated fat, were vilified for decades. David R's comment on speed control is also striking and many have commented on that: too many/too rapid speed adjustments are as bad as too few.
Indeed, some feel that over-correction was a major issue with the first generation of direct drive tables.
I enjoyed reading the article and seeing the set up photos with Joel Durand and Jonathan Tinn. Have there been any direct comparisons with other tables at this price point like the TechDas AF2, Kronos Pro or VPI?
I found the discussion of the isolation bass particularly fascinating because it claims to control three types of vibrations: ground borne, airborne and also those originating in the turntable itself. It is not clear how it does that, but that would be impressive. I would think that there would be quite a demand and market for this platform beyond just for owners of the NVS. Is it marketed as a separate product?System link: https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threa...l-sound.32867/
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Anybody that refers to the Repo Man soundtrack in a review is allrigght by me! Of the lot of you, Durand looks the part- mad professor. Table looks nice in those pics. Clean, uncluttered. So, the rhetorical question--do the different top line tables, using same arm/cartridge, sound different? I've got to assume that a direct drive table is going to have different sonic characteristics than a belt drive (not expressing personal preference, but it's been a lifetime since I used DD).
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Yes, there is interest in DD tables like the NVS, the Dobbins Beat and the VPI.
But don't forget the two newest tables which have gotten so much media and forum buzz the last couple of years: TechDas and Kronos. These are belt drive and offer isolation/suspension. I think it is difficult to say there is a trend one way or the other.
I enjoyed reading the article and seeing the set up photos with Joel Durand and Jonathan Tinn. Have there been any direct comparisons with other tables at this price point like the TechDas AF2, Kronos Pro or VPI?
I found the discussion of the isolation bass particularly fascinating because it claims to control three types of vibrations: ground borne, airborne and also those originating in the turntable itself. It is not clear how it does that, but that would be impressive. I would think that there would be quite a demand and market for this platform beyond just for owners of the NVS. Is it marketed as a separate product?
It's tough getting an AF table from Bob. I tried, we had discussions vis a vis the AF2 or 3 and it died on the vine.
I think like everything else in high-end audio, there's always a bunch of mutually exclusive tradeoffs when designing gear. It's the which tradeoffs the designer chooses that determines the outcome. Again, it's also execution rather than just design that counts too. That's what the new gen of DD tables show.Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
________________________________________
-Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
-Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
-Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
-Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
-VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
-VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
-Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
-Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
-Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
-Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.
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Originally posted by Jtinn View PostDavid Robinson just published about his 5 year experience with the Wave Kinetics NVS Reference Turntable and the Durand Tonearm Telos. It can be read here:
http://positive-feedback.com/audio-d...-essay-review/
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You work hard at high end audio, you certainly deserve the reward. Hope to see you at RMAFLast edited by Albert Porter; 10-03-2016, 10:39 PM.
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Originally posted by Bill Hart View PostAnybody that refers to the Repo Man soundtrack in a review is allrigght by me! Of the lot of you, Durand looks the part- mad professor. Table looks nice in those pics. Clean, uncluttered. So, the rhetorical question--do the different top line tables, using same arm/cartridge, sound different? I've got to assume that a direct drive table is going to have different sonic characteristics than a belt drive (not expressing personal preference, but it's been a lifetime since I used DD).Best Regards,
Jonathan Tinn
Blue Light Audio
darTZeel - Importer
Evolution Acoustics - Co-Owner / Founder
Playback Designs - Co-Founder
Wave Kinetics - Co-Owner / Co-Founder
Wave Kinetics Records - Co-Owner / Co-Founder
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