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Of the new Air Force III turntable. Hubba, hubba....
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Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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-Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
-Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
-Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
-Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
-VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
-VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
-Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
-Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
-Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
-Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms. -
Love it too... Is it blasphemy to say I prefer it to the Airforce one? -
Can't say the same, I prefer a more minimalist design that looks more traditional or more geometrically balanced and less "busy".Comment
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I saw it up close and heard it through a system worth a few hundred grand. I cant says it disappointed, Its more like an RX1500 retread than a clean sheet design unless I'm seriously overlooking something besides the price.
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what is the MSRP?Micro Seiki SX-8000 table with flywheel, SME 3012R arm, SME 312S arm, Lyra Etna SL and Dynavector XV-1S cartridges, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 tape deck, Ampex 350 repros, Roon Nucleus Plus server, PS Audio DSJ DAC, ARC Ref 6 pre, ARC Ref 75 amp, Parasound JC5 amp, JBL 4345 speakers, and Def Tech Ref subs.Comment
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I too prefer something a bit less industrial looking. Hey, how about the Vpi Classic 3? Maybe with the.dd motor? Now where did I see one of those? Hmmm.Turntable: TW Acustic TT with Ref motor & controller; Tri-Planar Arm; Transfiguration Proteus Cartridge, Harmonix-Combak platter mat & weight; PS Audio Stellar Phono Preamp; KLAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner.
Digital: Bluesound Vault-2 Music Server & Streamer
Amplification: VTL 6.5 preamp Series II, Pass Labs 150.8 Amp
Loudspeakers: Piega C711 Loudspeakers
Isolation: Symposium Osiris Rack; Symposium Platforms and Roller Blocks and grade 2.5 Balls
Misc: Acoustic Revive RR-888 Low Frequency Pulse Generator, Synergistic Research 12 UEF SE Line Conditioner, Level 3 HC AC Cord and Level 3 Atmosphere power cords, Synergistic Carbon fiber wall plates, Synergistic Research Orange Outlet, Furutech NCF Booster Braces, synergistic Research Galileo and Atmosphere X Euphoria Level 3 Balanced ICs, Synergistic Research Euphoria Level 3 Speaker Cables, Synergistic Research Cable Risers.
Sennheiser HDV 650 Headphone Amp; Sennheiser HD800s Headphones.Comment
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Soon there will be enough Airforce N models to start a turntable war...Comment
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Not my favorite look. In that genre I prefer the Waveform Kinetics or Grand Prix Monaco to this one.Turntable: - 1. Fairchild 750/OMA slate plinth
2. Analog Engineering AE-2008 MinusK support.
Tonearm: 1. Schroder Custom
2. Schick 12"
3. Abis SA-1
Cartridge: Miyajima Kansui and Premium BE Mono
PhonoPre: AprilSound LR, EMIA Strain Gauge, EMIA silver SUT
CD: Wadia 860x
Server: Innuos Zen Mini Mk3
DAC: Computer Audio Design 1543 Mk2
Preamp: Bent Audio TAP-X w silver autoformers
Amplifier: AprilSound SET50 monoblocks
Speaker: Pioneer PAX-30CComment
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Originally posted by Rust View Post
I think that is in part due to the three arms. I saw another pic of the AF3 where it had one (or was it two) arm and it looked sensational.Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
________________________________________
-Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
-Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
-Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
-Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
-VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
-VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
-Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
-Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
-Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
-Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.Comment
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It's more than that. The little control shelf sticking out the left front instead of more centered, the boxy plinth not really matching the motor pod or circular tonearm mounts. One the other hand, if it sounds great and I could afford it I might be a little less critical.
Sometime back in the mid 80's I saw an Oracle with smoked plexiglass instead of clear that looked pretty amazing. I've seen tables using the guts of Regas and Thorens in sculpted select grain monkey pod wood plinths with 10 hand rubbed coats of lacquer that were exquisite to look at.
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Aesthetically I would have preferred a rectangular motor pod but it would have limited the potential number of arms I think. I have one in customs now and I'm looking forward to trying it beside the Airforce One before it heads to its new home. Funny thing about about TD is one of the greatest draws for me is that the controls are so simple that they are like those found in mass market tables. Ironic that these interfaces like a small screen, speed control, pitch adjustment and other conveniences which do not cost much at all are absent on many high end tables' front panels or plinth tops. Instead they are instead placed separately on outboard boxes which sadly many of us can't place in more convenient places eg right beside the tables! In this day and age I think there is no excuse for having to switch pulley placements given the prices demanded. Fortunately, we're seeing a lot more of this from the big players like VPI, Clearaudio and many others who have now not just moved at least the speed selectors to convenient locations, they actually provide them from the get go.
Do I like the look of the AF3 as a whole? I would say yes but in my eyes the 1 with the smooth three piece machined plinth and its silky curves and beveling is much sexier. Both tables look so much better in the flesh than in pictures, more so the AF1 which manages to look compact despite its actual size and weight. The Two really does look like it was partially made from metal salvaged from the Battleship Yamato. It literally looks like a battleship. Given how close it sounds to a One at half the price however, once the needle hits the record, I've not heard anybody complain.Comment
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I wonder what is measured to obtain the RPM display data?Comment
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I believe there's a hall sensor underneath the platter monitoring platter speed.Comment
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