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  • I Love The Look

    Of the new Air Force III turntable. Hubba, hubba....
    Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
    Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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    -Magico S5 Mk.2 speakers with SPod feet
    -Goldmund Telos 280 stereo amp
    -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
    -Doshi V3.0 phonostage
    -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
    -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
    -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
    -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
    -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 5, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
    -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA platforms.

  • #2
    Love it too... Is it blasphemy to say I prefer it to the Airforce one?

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    • #3
      Can't say the same, I prefer a more minimalist design that looks more traditional or more geometrically balanced and less "busy".

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      • #4
        I saw it up close and heard it through a system worth a few hundred grand. I cant says it disappointed, Its more like an RX1500 retread than a clean sheet design unless I'm seriously overlooking something besides the price.
        Simon Yorke S10 | My Sonic Lab Eminent GL | AcousticPlan PhonoMaster | Wadia X32 | Innuous ZEN Mini Mk II | Valvet Soulshine2 | Linear Tube Audio ZOTL10 MkII | Avantgarde Uno Fino XD

        "One of the great challenges of this world: Knowing enough about a subject to think you are right, but not enough about the subject to know you're wrong" - Neil deGrasse Tyson

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        • MylesBAstor
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          I think it looks world's better than the AF2.

        • Rob
          Rob commented
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          The AF IIIs footprint is smaller which makes it easy to place. IMO, the overall fit n finish is high, even the stuff you cant see like the innards of AF1's control box is a thing of beauty.

      • #5
        what is the MSRP?
        Micro Seiki SX-8000 table with flywheel, SME 3012R arm, SME 312S arm, Lyra Etna SL and Dynavector XV-1S cartridges, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 tape deck, Ampex 350 repros, Roon Nucleus Plus server, PS Audio DSJ DAC, ARC Ref 6 pre, ARC Ref 75 amp, JBL 4345 speakers, and Def Tech Ref subs.

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        • #6
          Originally posted by mep View Post
          what is the MSRP?
          26,250
          Simon Yorke S10 | My Sonic Lab Eminent GL | AcousticPlan PhonoMaster | Wadia X32 | Innuous ZEN Mini Mk II | Valvet Soulshine2 | Linear Tube Audio ZOTL10 MkII | Avantgarde Uno Fino XD

          "One of the great challenges of this world: Knowing enough about a subject to think you are right, but not enough about the subject to know you're wrong" - Neil deGrasse Tyson

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            Do you know if that is with or without 'arm?

        • #7
          I too prefer something a bit less industrial looking. Hey, how about the Vpi Classic 3? Maybe with the.dd motor? Now where did I see one of those? Hmmm.
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          • #8
            Soon there will be enough Airforce N models to start a turntable war...

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            • #9
              Not my favorite look. In that genre I prefer the Waveform Kinetics or Grand Prix Monaco to this one.
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              • #10
                Originally posted by Rust View Post
                Can't say the same, I prefer a more minimalist design that looks more traditional or more geometrically balanced and less "busy".

                I think that is in part due to the three arms. I saw another pic of the AF3 where it had one (or was it two) arm and it looked sensational.
                Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                ________________________________________

                -Magico S5 Mk.2 speakers with SPod feet
                -Goldmund Telos 280 stereo amp
                -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                -Doshi V3.0 phonostage
                -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 5, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
                -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA platforms.

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                • #11
                  It's more than that. The little control shelf sticking out the left front instead of more centered, the boxy plinth not really matching the motor pod or circular tonearm mounts. One the other hand, if it sounds great and I could afford it I might be a little less critical.

                  Sometime back in the mid 80's I saw an Oracle with smoked plexiglass instead of clear that looked pretty amazing. I've seen tables using the guts of Regas and Thorens in sculpted select grain monkey pod wood plinths with 10 hand rubbed coats of lacquer that were exquisite to look at.

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                  • #12
                    Aesthetically I would have preferred a rectangular motor pod but it would have limited the potential number of arms I think. I have one in customs now and I'm looking forward to trying it beside the Airforce One before it heads to its new home. Funny thing about about TD is one of the greatest draws for me is that the controls are so simple that they are like those found in mass market tables. Ironic that these interfaces like a small screen, speed control, pitch adjustment and other conveniences which do not cost much at all are absent on many high end tables' front panels or plinth tops. Instead they are instead placed separately on outboard boxes which sadly many of us can't place in more convenient places eg right beside the tables! In this day and age I think there is no excuse for having to switch pulley placements given the prices demanded. Fortunately, we're seeing a lot more of this from the big players like VPI, Clearaudio and many others who have now not just moved at least the speed selectors to convenient locations, they actually provide them from the get go.

                    Do I like the look of the AF3 as a whole? I would say yes but in my eyes the 1 with the smooth three piece machined plinth and its silky curves and beveling is much sexier. Both tables look so much better in the flesh than in pictures, more so the AF1 which manages to look compact despite its actual size and weight. The Two really does look like it was partially made from metal salvaged from the Battleship Yamato. It literally looks like a battleship. Given how close it sounds to a One at half the price however, once the needle hits the record, I've not heard anybody complain.

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                    • #13
                      Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post


                      I think that is in part due to the three arms. I saw another pic of the AF3 where it had one (or was it two) arm and it looked sensational.
                      Last edited by tima; 03-25-2016, 02:51 AM. Reason: fix image with direct access

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                      • #14
                        I wonder what is measured to obtain the RPM display data?

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                        • #15
                          I believe there's a hall sensor underneath the platter monitoring platter speed.
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                          "One of the great challenges of this world: Knowing enough about a subject to think you are right, but not enough about the subject to know you're wrong" - Neil deGrasse Tyson

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                            That's a positive.
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