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  • #1

    Equipment and Cable Break-In

    Not to promote any one device but more to look at what is going on beneath the surface. I think it's really important to realize all the potential in one's system, especially cables. Once your system gets to a certain level, cable quality can make or break a system particularly when we are talking resolution, transparency and noise.

    http://www.hagtech.com/pdf/fryklean.pdf
    Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
    Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
    ________________________________________

    -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
    -Goldmund Telos 440 mono amps
    -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
    -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
    -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
    -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
    -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, Phasemation PP-500 cartridges
    -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
    -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
    -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.
    Tags: audiodharma; nordost vidar, blue horizon, hagerman fry baby
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    What is Cable Burn-In? - Nordost Blog
    http://nordost.com/blog/what-is-cable-burn-in/
    From anti-static treatment to cable elevators, there are several things one can do to maximize the performance level of audio cables. For years now, manufacturers have been aware of another practice that drastically improves upon performance that has recently been gaining … Continue reading →
    Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
    Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
    ________________________________________

    -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
    -Goldmund Telos 440 mono amps
    -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
    -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
    -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
    -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
    -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, Phasemation PP-500 cartridges
    -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
    -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
    -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.
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    • #3
      The Cable Cooker
      http://www.audioexcellenceaz.com/products/audiodharma-cable-cooker-cable-conditioner/#tabs-12-0-6
      Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
      Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
      ________________________________________

      -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
      -Goldmund Telos 440 mono amps
      -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
      -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
      -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
      -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
      -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, Phasemation PP-500 cartridges
      -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
      -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
      -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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      • #4
        Proburn - BlueHorizon
        http://www.bluehorizonideas.com/products/system-enhancing-accessories/proburn/
        Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
        Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
        ________________________________________

        -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
        -Goldmund Telos 440 mono amps
        -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
        -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
        -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
        -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
        -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, Phasemation PP-500 cartridges
        -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
        -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
        -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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        • #5
          A little DIY even for phono cables.

          DIN Phono Cable Burn-in Adapter -
          http://www.takefiveaudio.com/mall/shopcontent.asp?type=din_burn_adpt
          This is a straight forward recipe for a simple DIN - RCA adapter that is used to burn-in five pin DIN - RCA phono cables. The adapter is used to adapt your DIN phono cable so that it can be used as an RCA-RCA interconnect. All you need to do is connect the RCA's of the adapter to the left and right output of your CD player (or any other line level source). Then connect the adapter DIN to the DIN of your phono cable and finally connect the RCA's of the phono cable to your amplifier. Normally the amplifier does not need to be powered up for the CD output to see a load. Next set your CD player to repeat a disc that contains program material which covers the full audio spectrum, another option would be to use a disc who's program material was specifically assembled for the purpose of equipment or speaker burn-in. This adapter can also be used with devices which were designed for cable burn-in. Check the cable daily by listening to it, when you are satisfied with the results discontinue the burn-in. To build the adapter you will need (1) Cardas MDIN, (2) feet Neotech UPOCC 20 awg, (1) pair Neutrik NYS352G, some short pieces of Red and Black CPA 100 1/2' shrinktube and some Teflon plumbers tape.   Cut your wire into 6 inch pieces as in the photo above and mark two of the wires with black marker so it will be easy to tell positive from negative when they are twisted together.   Next tin the solder cups on the MDIN. An easy way to do this is to insert some Cardas or WBT solder into the cup and snip it off flush with your side cutters, then just dab your soldering iron on the cup and the solder will melt and tin the cup. Next, strip and tin the conductors. Now just touch the iron on the sides of the cup while you insert the wires. Pinout can be found here. When the conductors are soldered on twist them into the left and right pairs.   Now we slide the 352G backshell over the twisted pair and place the positive conductor in the centre pin solder cup and put the negative wire under the cable clamp leaving enough space for the solder to flow from the clamp to the wire. Now apply solder to the connections. At this point all the connections are made, we just need to finish off the DIN and RCA's with some shrinktube. Carefully wrap the connections on the DIN with Teflon tape. Cut the 1/2' shrinktube to cover the DIN and tape and shrink it on. Now cut the shrinktube for the RCA's and shrink it on. That's it, you are done, now go burn in that phono cable!     DIY Home
          Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
          Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
          ________________________________________

          -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
          -Goldmund Telos 440 mono amps
          -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
          -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
          -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
          -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
          -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, Phasemation PP-500 cartridges
          -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
          -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
          -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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          • #6
            phono break in CD.

            Test CD, Phono burn-in CD, Bass test CD, cones, cone, Extreme System Burn In Test CD, RIAA article.
            http://www.graniteaudio.com/phono/page2.html
            Granite Audio - We manufacture high-end vacuum tube amps, preamps, & audio stereo speaker systems. Unique acrylic-granite speakers, home theater speaker systems, silver cables, decorator granite colors.
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          • #7
            Now I find cable burn-in an inexact science eg. exactly how long should one leave the cable hooked up to the burn-in device. The amount of time needed seems to depend upon among other things, the gauge (s) of the wire, the number of conductors and how much dielectric material is used in the cable. There are different recommendations including burning in for 24 hours, listening and then rehooking up and relistening every 8 hours. There's no downside to doing it too long; all you need to do is play the cable and let it settle in. I do find, though, that 1) cables need to be left along for 24 hrs after handling to fully appreciate the amount of change and 2) even after cooking, another 24 or so hours is needed to let the cable fully settle in.

            One thing that is usually not talked about, however, is periodically recharging cables. I do find that helps if you can find the time to disconnect the cables. "Recharging," though, won't take as long as when the cable in brand spanking new out of the box. Something like 24-36 hours works.

            And if you don't have the money to plunk down (or say a club that might buy a unit and lend it out among members), there are places that will do cables for a fee. Hell, I've even done it for people who want to drop their cables off for me. In fact, anyone in the NY area who would like to have their cables broken-in on the audiodharma, just PM me.
            Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
            Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
            ________________________________________

            -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
            -Goldmund Telos 440 mono amps
            -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
            -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
            -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
            -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
            -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, Phasemation PP-500 cartridges
            -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
            -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
            -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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            • cpp
              #7.1
              cpp commented
              09-08-2016, 09:28 AM
              Editing a comment
              So Myles your saying that our speakers cables that we utilize each day in our system require "recharging". I just don't see the material shifting its construction properties after months of steady use. If that's the case any cable would require recharging, and that would be cables around your HT center, computers, TV, Modem etc.., I would like to see some info from a manufacturer on what goes dormant in a speaker cable after weeks, months or even years of use that would require recharging of a cable. I just don't see copper oxidation unless we left the device free of any current for a long time much like the Statue of Liberty copper turning a blue/green from oxidation.
            • MylesBAstor
              #7.2
              MylesBAstor commented
              09-08-2016, 11:35 PM
              Editing a comment
              I can only listen and report. I happen to have duplicate power cords so can compare used, retreated and unused of the same product. There was some talk that part of breaking in deals with oxygen trapped between the dielectric and conductor. Plastic is not a perfect sealant and over time, oxygen can seep through the dielectric. On the other hand, capacitors that have been not used (in equipment) also need time to re-break-in.
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