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    we all or most here have one or two floating around hell I use one as a reference. Why a CD player is a facet view needed as part of a reference to model out systems too.
    analog stuff.
    otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 made new by soren
    otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 1/2 combo made new by soren
    sota sapphire used eminent tech ver 2 arm
    new sota nova table has magnetic levitation platter and full speed control and latest motor same arm as above
    thorens td124 sme ver 2 arm
    thorens td125 sme ver 2 arm
    kenwood direct drive sme ver 2 arm
    phono preamp Ml no 25 all re capped
    speakers cust infinity IRS V , new caps and LPS , magnets etc.
    mark levivson pre no 26 amps no 33
    digital three cust servers , win ser 2016 , AO
    Dacs lampi various

  • #2
    Not 100% sure of your topic. I have a heavily modified Oppo 205 with a tube based output stage and separate power supply. I am very pleased with the sound and feel it supplements my analog very well. Though not inexpensive($6K), I have never had better digital in my system. Because I own almost 400 CD's(About 800+ LP's), I have stayed old school with a CD player.

    Exploring thoughts on a server. When my wife has parties or people over, I try to ignore their requests for some truly crappy music(I am such a good host). I currently use a Wadia 171 with an iPod thru my A/V system(All solid state) It would be nice to have a better selection and higher quality sound.
    CJ Gat, Lamm ML1.1, CJ Tea1 S3 phono, TW Acoustics Raven AC, Tri-Planer MK Vll SE, Vdh Crimson Stradivarius, Exemplar Modded 205(Tube Version),Eficion F300 Speakers(Stillpoints Customized), Shunyata Denali 6000t,Triton V3, Shunyata Python Zitron IC's & Python Zitron Speaker Cables. Shunyata Sigma Power Cables, Audio Desk Pro LP Cleaner, Stillpoints, Stillpoints Aperture Panels & MG Corner Tunes.

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    • #3
      I still use my CD player as my primary source given the extensive collection. Not that I would give up my vinyl. I may have to bite the bullet and set up some sort of a server as I just spent 20 minutes looking through two rooms for a misfiled disc. I'd need the kind of ripper you feed 50 discs to at a time, sort of set it and forget it to quote Ron Popeil.

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      • #4
        Lol rust you must have a lot of cd s.
        My point is we each need more than one playback device. We each need more than one setup to. I use headphones
        three sets two amps and a CD player.
        They are tools at this point really while none of them give nearly the satisfaction of my speaker rig.
        But they do help confirm things I hear at certain levels.
        Did you ever play a new cd or download of a song you know well. And as you play it hear new sounds. Or the singer is more back or forward. How do we know what is the correct sound ? Well we don't but if we use a few playback and sound reproduction methods this puts a few lights to look at.
        While and CD player is not perfect and dacs improve over time too. They do a few things very well.
        For one they sound more powerful as does red book in general. As i play higher resolution this changes.
        Now maybe most don't hear this nor pay attention either and this is ok. For me listening is always in two parts one emotion the second a scientist lol.
        Red book alone has more bite and power in sound and as I go above this layers appear more separated and smaller sound changes and lower noise floor are in part why.
        A CD player if made well is a fines tuned one trick pony of sorts and it's not an accident that a well made 8 year old one still sounds good. Yes dacs have improved but the fact remains they still do things well.
        In years of making my severs a well made CD player was the focus to use to best it.
        Remember when a green line marker was used to make cd s sound better ? How about shm too. Yes they do make great remasters but they name means super high materials. The actual cd used makes a profound change when played. So how do we know what's better or worse
        by me using many or helps make choices to move towards
        by the way when we rip and cd it becomes just bits and now the server / steamer used makes the sound.
        In the past I owned a msb stack the cost of the sacd / cd / streamer was about 12k some 5 years ago. It took me years to surpass it overall.
        A good CD player is just that a good producer of sound and one that uses a tube output stage adds magic too.

        analog stuff.
        otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 made new by soren
        otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 1/2 combo made new by soren
        sota sapphire used eminent tech ver 2 arm
        new sota nova table has magnetic levitation platter and full speed control and latest motor same arm as above
        thorens td124 sme ver 2 arm
        thorens td125 sme ver 2 arm
        kenwood direct drive sme ver 2 arm
        phono preamp Ml no 25 all re capped
        speakers cust infinity IRS V , new caps and LPS , magnets etc.
        mark levivson pre no 26 amps no 33
        digital three cust servers , win ser 2016 , AO
        Dacs lampi various

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Hawk View Post
          Not 100% sure of your topic. I have a heavily modified Oppo 205 with a tube based output stage and separate power supply. I am very pleased with the sound and feel it supplements my analog very well. Though not inexpensive($6K), I have never had better digital in my system. Because I own almost 400 CD's(About 800+ LP's), I have stayed old school with a CD player.

          Exploring thoughts on a server. When my wife has parties or people over, I try to ignore their requests for some truly crappy music(I am such a good host). I currently use a Wadia 171 with an iPod thru my A/V system(All solid state) It would be nice to have a better selection and higher quality sound.
          A simple low cost server is a laptop or better a desk top left alone to only play music. If your wadia allows for a digital input , coax or optical you could use it as a dac too.
          analog stuff.
          otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 made new by soren
          otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 1/2 combo made new by soren
          sota sapphire used eminent tech ver 2 arm
          new sota nova table has magnetic levitation platter and full speed control and latest motor same arm as above
          thorens td124 sme ver 2 arm
          thorens td125 sme ver 2 arm
          kenwood direct drive sme ver 2 arm
          phono preamp Ml no 25 all re capped
          speakers cust infinity IRS V , new caps and LPS , magnets etc.
          mark levivson pre no 26 amps no 33
          digital three cust servers , win ser 2016 , AO
          Dacs lampi various

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          • Hawk
            Hawk commented
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            Thanks Al. I looked at the back of the Wadia and it does not have a digital input or input of any kind. On the good news front, I can use the digital input on the back of my Exemplar Oppo 205. I will mess around with my extra lap top for a while. If I like it, I may eventually move forward with a dedicated server & DAC.

          • Kingrex
            Kingrex commented
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            So software as well as updated PS are no longer necessary. This is a pretty confusing comment Al. Even MEP found a decent purpose built device is far better than a laptop or desktop. A basic laptop or desktop (IMO) is a playback device, not an audio device.

        • #6
          I have both a SACD player and two DACs which receive lossless and hi-res files from my music server (which is a MacMini). All of it is nice but not high end digital gear. To my ears the Oppo Sonica DAC is the best sounding of the 3 by a very slight margin.
          TAPE: Studer A807, A810; Revox B77 MkII; Tascam BR-20; Technics RS-1700; Pioneer RT-707, RT-909
          VINYL: Pioneer PL-50LII/Benz LP-S MR/ModWright PH 9.0; Denon DP59-L/Dynavector 20xH
          DIGITAL: Bryston SP-3, Marantz NA6006/Pioneer N-50, Schiit Bifrost
          SPEAKERS: B&W Nautilus 800, Pioneer DSS-9, Velodyne FSR-15
          AMPS: Cary SLP-05/Sunfire Signature 600, Pioneer SX-1980

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          • #7
            While I have two cd players in my main system, I rarely use them, preferring vinyl. I have another Cd player in my PC system I do use pretty frequently and it sounds ok, better than spotify, but not as refined as vinyl though. That one is the Onkyo Integra with a outboard DAC.
            Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Shelter 501 Mark II Cart (St) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (St) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (St) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (M) , Luxman Tonearm (M) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (M) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-300 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver Interconnects

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            • #8
              While vinyl is still my primary source, for a long time new releases were only coming out on cd, so a high end CD player was a ‘must’ for anyone still buying new music and, since I have zero interest in ripping 3-4,000 albums and CDs into a server, it still is. If you're setting up your first system and/or don’t already have a sizable collection (not certain I understand exactly what you are asking), I wouldn’t bother.
              SME 10/IV, Lyra Kleos, Koetsu Blavk Goldline, Cotter Mk. 2L sut, BAT VK-D5 (diy ‘six-pak’ upgrade), Audioengine D2 WiFi dac (for streaming from iMac desktop), Plinius Hautonga, Totem Forest Signatures, MIT Shotgun S1 phono, Shotgun S1 Proline (cd player), S3 (dac), MIT StyleLink Plus usb, Shotgun S1 speaker cable with AQ jumpers, RGPC Substation and1200S, Marigo Ultra and Reference power cords, Burson Soloist, modified Sennheiser HD580 Precision with Dekoni elite hybrid pads and custom wire, VPI 16.5 and other miscellaneous and sundry widgets, thingamabobs and doodads.

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