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    Downloaded both Roon and HQPlayer today on the new music laptop. I am liking Roon but tried to configure HQPlayer and just cannot figure out how. Now that I have DSD256 access I picked up a few titles at Native DSD.









    Marty

  • #2
    I have a bunch of pawn shops stuff in dsd 128 , nice live club. I'll try a dsd 256 so far not a big deal for me though . I have not tied Roon either , HQ player was not good for and some claim unless you use it to up sample it's not the jame . It sounded flat to me. Again just a preference . J river us fine and better for me. Now the new next gen stuff is. Bug head . I have not tried that yet either . I will try the new pawnshop stuff and thanks for posting it.
    analog stuff.
    otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 made new by soren
    otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 1/2 combo made new by soren
    sota sapphire used eminent tech ver 2 arm
    new sota nova table has magnetic levitation platter and full speed control and latest motor same arm as above
    thorens td124 sme ver 2 arm
    thorens td125 sme ver 2 arm
    kenwood direct drive sme ver 2 arm
    phono preamp Ml no 25 all re capped
    speakers cust infinity IRS V , new caps and LPS , magnets etc.
    mark levivson pre no 26 amps no 33
    digital three cust servers , win ser 2016 , AO
    Dacs lampi various

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Alrainbow View Post
      I have a bunch of pawn shops stuff in dsd 128 , nice live club. I'll try a dsd 256 so far not a big deal for me though . I have not tied Roon either , HQ player was not good for and some claim unless you use it to up sample it's not the jame . It sounded flat to me. Again just a preference . J river us fine and better for me. Now the new next gen stuff is. Bug head . I have not tried that yet either . I will try the new pawnshop stuff and thanks for posting it.
      Al, What's "the jame?" Thanks, Larry
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      • #4
        Originally posted by astrotoy View Post

        al, what's "the jame?" thanks, larry
        same.

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        • #5
          Roon does a better job of finding all the meta data and album cover info of any software I have used to date. If it just had folder view or could create folders I would be a happy camper. Roon seems to extract more detail than playing the same through the Aurender N10.
          Marty

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          • #6
            Since there was mention of DSD 512 has there every been any real music recorded at DSD 512 if not , so everything is just upsampled ?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by cpp View Post
              Since there was mention of DSD 512 has there every been any real music recorded at DSD 512 if not , so everything is just upsampled ?
              There aren't any recording tools above DSD 256. So DSD 512 and DSD 1024 are likely to remain used only for upsampling.

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              • cpp
                cpp commented
                Editing a comment
                Interesting, so if there is NO music recorded to support those rates, why even upsample it in a dac to that rate. Wouldn't it be an artificial reproduction of sounds that was never there in the first place.

            • #8
              Originally posted by astrotoy View Post

              Al, What's "the jame?" Thanks, Larry
              I think Al meant not the same Larry.
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              • #9
                Damn I guess I am old and ghetto too. Sorry if it's really good it's the jam , wow I feel,old and odd too. If just one other understood lol.
                analog stuff.
                otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 made new by soren
                otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 1/2 combo made new by soren
                sota sapphire used eminent tech ver 2 arm
                new sota nova table has magnetic levitation platter and full speed control and latest motor same arm as above
                thorens td124 sme ver 2 arm
                thorens td125 sme ver 2 arm
                kenwood direct drive sme ver 2 arm
                phono preamp Ml no 25 all re capped
                speakers cust infinity IRS V , new caps and LPS , magnets etc.
                mark levivson pre no 26 amps no 33
                digital three cust servers , win ser 2016 , AO
                Dacs lampi various

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                • #10
                  Anytime we up sample,or downsample or change format it's artifitial . But this is digital audio nothing really is real like analog . And even analog is a recording with its own limitations. Honestly we really need to learn better what we like and use that . This is why most who up sample do it in the forest place they like the way it sounds. I have said this before , if I upsamle PCM it's not dsd it's just something else but this is for me . No one really should say it's better or worse , it's objective . Fr me the only up sample I have used is my msb dac . But my lampi is better if I play it native weather it's PCM or dsd .
                  analog stuff.
                  otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 made new by soren
                  otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 1/2 combo made new by soren
                  sota sapphire used eminent tech ver 2 arm
                  new sota nova table has magnetic levitation platter and full speed control and latest motor same arm as above
                  thorens td124 sme ver 2 arm
                  thorens td125 sme ver 2 arm
                  kenwood direct drive sme ver 2 arm
                  phono preamp Ml no 25 all re capped
                  speakers cust infinity IRS V , new caps and LPS , magnets etc.
                  mark levivson pre no 26 amps no 33
                  digital three cust servers , win ser 2016 , AO
                  Dacs lampi various

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                  • #11
                    I am experimenting with Roon and HQPlayer up sampling to DSD512 into a T&A DAC8 DSD. Just got everything working yesterday evening before I had to do a road trip. First impressions were different from my Aurender N10.
                    Marty

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                    • #12
                      Try going up to dsd 128 that seems to a sweet spot for most dacs . Also I would not upsampke dsd for me there is just a loss of the dsd sound . But I can see upsampking PCM but agin try dsd 128 not 256. Just some thoughts
                      analog stuff.
                      otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 made new by soren
                      otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 1/2 combo made new by soren
                      sota sapphire used eminent tech ver 2 arm
                      new sota nova table has magnetic levitation platter and full speed control and latest motor same arm as above
                      thorens td124 sme ver 2 arm
                      thorens td125 sme ver 2 arm
                      kenwood direct drive sme ver 2 arm
                      phono preamp Ml no 25 all re capped
                      speakers cust infinity IRS V , new caps and LPS , magnets etc.
                      mark levivson pre no 26 amps no 33
                      digital three cust servers , win ser 2016 , AO
                      Dacs lampi various

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                      • #13
                        I tried up sampling my DSD64 and 128 to DSD512. My laptop wouldn't do it and it struggles a little on the PCM to 512. A very different sound, I need more time to absorb and evaluate what I am hearing.
                        Marty

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                        • MylesBAstor
                          MylesBAstor commented
                          Editing a comment
                          I played with RBCD upsampled to 8X DSD. Big difference. But just ripping a CD to the hard drive can improve the sound too.

                      • #14
                        If your laptop is not doing dsd well do not use it to upsample it takes horsepower to do it on the fly . Also DS is not played well on sources that are not an I7 2.5 or better and laptops are not a good choice for p,aback of dsd either. Go into power saving settings turn off all battery saving modes . And when you plY use the battery only . There is free software to offline upsample PCM to dsd . Try this first it's better way to try it.
                        analog stuff.
                        otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 made new by soren
                        otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 1/2 combo made new by soren
                        sota sapphire used eminent tech ver 2 arm
                        new sota nova table has magnetic levitation platter and full speed control and latest motor same arm as above
                        thorens td124 sme ver 2 arm
                        thorens td125 sme ver 2 arm
                        kenwood direct drive sme ver 2 arm
                        phono preamp Ml no 25 all re capped
                        speakers cust infinity IRS V , new caps and LPS , magnets etc.
                        mark levivson pre no 26 amps no 33
                        digital three cust servers , win ser 2016 , AO
                        Dacs lampi various

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                        • #15
                          I need to streamline the Windows install. The laptop should be strong enough. See below

                          ASUS ROG GL752VW-DH71 17.3" IPS FHD (19201080), matte, Gaming Laptop, Metallic, Intel Core i7-6700HQ 2.6GHz (Turbo up to 3.5GHz) Skylake, 16GB DDR4 (2133MHZ), 1TB 7200RPM , NVIDIA GTX960M 2GB GDDR5, DL DVDRW/CD-RW, 802.11AC, Bluetooth 4.0, Windows 10

                          Marty

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