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    Spotify Premium Sound Quality

    Has anyone here tried the Spotify premium service and how did you find the sound quality?( compared to the free service which I find to be mediocre).
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    It's OK. CD quality. DAC shows 48Khz. Regardless of bitrate, depends on the material.
    Steve

    Studer Enthusiast

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    • JCOConnell
      #2.1
      JCOConnell commented
      07-22-2017, 02:05 PM
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      OK, thanks.
  • #3
    I have wondered the same about the Premium Spotify service myself. Thinking of dropping my Tidal service. Has anyone dropped Tidal over Spotify?
    Marty

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    • #4
      I thought Spotify premium was 320kpps. better than their standard stream but not lossless or competitive with Tidal HiFi.
      Steve Lefkowicz
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      • JCOConnell
        #4.1
        JCOConnell commented
        07-23-2017, 11:46 AM
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        Their web page says its better quality and ad free but doesn't give technical details on the audio quality.
      • Steve Lefkowicz
        #4.2
        Steve Lefkowicz commented
        07-23-2017, 09:17 PM
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        Found several web sites that stated it was 320 kbps in their articles. My son has both Spotify Extreme and Tidal HiFi, He likes SPotify better for its catalog and its "artist radio" selections but Tidal better for sound quality. He says over his system at home the difference is pretty obvious. I haven't tried Spotify so I can't comment.
    • #5
      Originally posted by Steve Lefkowicz View Post
      I thought Spotify premium was 320kpps. better than their standard stream but not lossless or competitive with Tidal HiFi.
      Yes that is Spotfy best at this point in time, however I believe there is an ongoing beta program that will be lossless ( CD quality).
      Cheers......

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      • #6
        I prefer Spotify to Tidal due to a larger catalogue. Premium comes at 320kB/s. A lossless option called Spotify Hi-Fi was talked about this spring but I don´t know if it has been launched yet.

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        • JCOConnell
          #6.1
          JCOConnell commented
          07-24-2017, 04:54 PM
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          in my experience, a 320 kbps stream with a good codec can sound almost as good as CD quality
      • #7
        I only use Spotify/Pandora/etc. to keep music throughout the house and pool area....just background.....Reg, not even premium is fine.

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        • #8
          Doesn't Tidal also come with MQA? Does Spotify?
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          • #9
            Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post
            Doesn't Tidal also come with MQA? Does Spotify?
            Even Premium Spotify isn't even CD quality, let alone MQA.
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            • #10
              Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post
              Doesn't Tidal also come with MQA? Does Spotify?

              Tidal Hi-fi and MQA (masters) $19.99 and if you have a MQA device you get the full MQA jello shot. I stayed with Tidal, I just thought it just sounded better than Spotify
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              • JCOConnell
                #10.1
                JCOConnell commented
                07-25-2017, 09:30 AM
                Editing a comment
                Spotify has a long way to go to catch up to tidal in terms of sound quality at least.
            • #11
              big difference too is the catalog. for the old weird stuff I like Tidal actually does better than Spotify, but for the stuff my son likes he prefers Spotify. One thing I do agree with him on is Spotify is much better when you pick an artist and select to play artist radio or "similar artists." Tidal seems to pick either a very limited group of artists or conversely, some that don't fit the style at all, while spotify goes fairly wide in range, but gets thing genre/style wise close enough to be consistent.
              Steve Lefkowicz
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              • #12
                Originally posted by Steve Lefkowicz View Post
                big difference too is the catalog. for the old weird stuff I like Tidal actually does better than Spotify, but for the stuff my son likes he prefers Spotify. One thing I do agree with him on is Spotify is much better when you pick an artist and select to play artist radio or "similar artists." Tidal seems to pick either a very limited group of artists or conversely, some that don't fit the style at all, while spotify goes fairly wide in range, but gets thing genre/style wise close enough to be consistent.
                I think picking which streamer service largely depends upon the sound quality one gets and then the collection of music that is provided that suits ones music taste. Its rather a personal choice overall.
                Chris
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                • #13
                  I also switched from Spotify Premium to Tidal for the sound quality. I have to admit I was disappointed with Tidal's catalog at first, and still am sometimes. For example can't find all the Keith Jarrett ECM recordings on Tidal. I mainly use Tidal while at the office, or listen offline to music synced to my phone or tablet while traveling. At the office with in-ear monitors in you can clearly hear that Tidal sounds better, and MQA steps it up another notch. I found Spotify Premium was extremely fatiguing after 45 minutes, and just wanted to yank out the in-ear monitors.

                  At home Tidal has been great due to the integration with Roon. If I remember correctly Tidal and one other (currently not Spotify) has been integrated.
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                  • #14
                    Why Spotify Lowered the Volume of Songs and Ended Hegemonic Loudness - Motherboard
                    https://motherboard.vice.com
                    Your ears will appreciate the end of the "Loudness Wars."
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