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    “The D-150, in other words, seems to have finally bridged that long-narrowing gap between the musical liquidity of the best tube amps and the openness, crispness and solidity of the best solid-state amps.”

    circa 1976.

    I always loved that classic ARC instrumentation look.
    We mentioned in the last issue that we were becoming increasingly disturbed by "a certain manic quality that is creeping into this pursuit of sonic perfection." We were referring then to a manufacturer's announcement of the imminent availability of a speaker system weighing over 1000 lb per channel, but we could just as well have been speaking of this behemoth from Audio Research.
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  • #2
    With all of the supposed advancements in audio playback since 1976, our systems today should sound like live music itself, and it still doesn't It was a lot simpler being at the tippy top of the hobby back then, there were far fewer players (mfrs) at this level and the product life cycles were long. IMHO, the field today is too crowded and as soon as a new model hits the market a successor is barely a year behind...and It's not always an improvement over the previous model but it will cost more! I'd bet the Dual 150 still sounds great, even by today's standards.
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    • #3
      I had a friend who had the D-150 and I loved it. And really lusted for one but couldn't afford it at the time. I also didn't have good luck with tubes then either so I used the D-110 (solid state) modified by Bob Fulton at that time, which sounded great for solid state but didn't have the liquidity. I would really like to have a D-150 now fully restored...

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      • Rob
        Rob commented
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        I guess the D-79 was the controversial one but just as desirable. I had a D-70 Mk II and D-115 MkII from the early '80s. both fabulous amps.

      • mep
        mep commented
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        I've had my fair share of ARC amps over the years including the D-79. The D-79 was not my cup of tea.

    • #4
      Originally posted by Rob View Post
      With all of the supposed advancements in audio playback since 1976, our systems today should sound like live music itself, and it still doesn't It was a lot simpler being at the tippy top of the hobby back then, there were far fewer players (mfrs) at this level and the product life cycles were long. IMHO, the field today is too crowded and as soon as a new model hits the market a successor is barely a year behind...and It's not always an improvement over the previous model but it will cost more! I'd bet the Dual 150 still sounds great, even by today's standards.
      I think you've hit it on the head. Too many players now with a shrinking market. Manufacturers are making it up on price catering to foreign markets.

      I always argue --- if I was not in school and had a job-- back in the late 70s early 80s when materials and minds for high end were really peaking that I could of found a way to afford the best: a Goldmund turntable or a big Audio Research piece.

      Today, that is impossible unless I wanted to send my kids to community college instead of a good University.

      Funny but sad story, A local audiophile nut who I think spent his inheritance on audio instead of his family had a D79, SP6 , Beveridge speakers and a Goldmund with a T3 on it when they were all current back in the day. When he wanted to flip the D79 for some Mark Levinson gear he offered it to me for some ridiculous price but I declined as I was going back to school that fall... I had it on trial for a week or so at my house and it was unbelievable on the Acoustats. I recommended it to my friend who did eventually buy it so I admired it from afar.That friend flipped it as well and never told me about or I would have bought it.... oh well.

      The D150 and the D79s were true beasts.
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      • #5
        My amps and preamp are all based upon historic tube designs. No new technology. To me they are fantastic. Digital seems to be the only technology that is actually advancing at this time. I wonder when it will peak and we will be having the same coversation.
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        • #6
          Originally posted by Rob View Post
          With all of the supposed advancements in audio playback since 1976, our systems today should sound like live music itself, and it still doesn't It was a lot simpler being at the tippy top of the hobby back then, there were far fewer players (mfrs) at this level and the product life cycles were long. IMHO, the field today is too crowded and as soon as a new model hits the market a successor is barely a year behind...and It's not always an improvement over the previous model but it will cost more! I'd bet the Dual 150 still sounds great, even by today's standards.
          Powerful Statement.

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          • #7
            I remember hearing that amp at Bob Fredere's house in Minneapolis, listening with Bob Fulton and Bill Johnson, on Bob's FMI J system and later on the Premiers.

            I ran a D51 for a year or so before switching over to OTL amps which I have run ever since. I don't miss the old days- phono sections are better now, tone arms and cartridges are better (Bob Fulton recommended the Shure V-15 to go with a D150, Bravura preamp and his speakers...), speakers have gotten better and while Fulton founded the high end audio cable industry almost single-handedly, cables have improved and things like balanced lines have been introduced ( fun fact: that was my doing...) and we are seeing new stuff like class D and streaming.

            I did like the styling of the D-150. IMO it was one of their best looking amps, but I go for that industrial look.

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            • #8
              I agree with atmosphere. I owned a D-150 and back then it was a wonderful amp in many ways but not nearly as good as my tube amps of today. Just my opinion. And love the way it looked.
              JLH

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