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    I'm currently using a Pass X250.5 amp with a CJ ET-5 preamp in my backup system (Maggie 3.7's, VPI Classic 4 w/ 12" printed arm, etc) and I have a chance to get a pair of Premier 140's that were especially built by CJ for a friend as Mono blocks. While the Pass drives the Maggie's nicely they lack the depth and "presence" that I like. Any opinions if the CJ's would rectify this? This system only gets used about 50 hours a year so I don't want to pour big bucks into it and I can grab these for a reasonable amount.
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    The CJs on the Maggies will be awesome, go for it. If you ever fancy a Pass again they're a dime a dozen, this CJ piece sounds like a one of kind deal.
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    • #3
      How many watts are the CJs? The Maggies need power.
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      • #4
        As a stereo amp, the Premier 140 offers 140 Watts per channel. Wired as a monoblock it yields 280W. A pair will make a great setup.

        I wrote my very first review about it: http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/c...premier140.htm

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        • #5
          Originally posted by tima View Post
          As a stereo amp, the Premier 140 offers 140 Watts per channel. Wired as a monoblock it yields 280W. A pair will make a great setup.

          I wrote my very first review about it: http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/c...premier140.htm
          That should be more than enough power for the Maggies then.
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          • #6
            Don't know what kind of price you are being offered, but the original list price on the CJ Premier 140's were $14K a pair.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by TommyTunes View Post
              I'm currently using a Pass X250.5 amp with a CJ ET-5 preamp in my backup system (Maggie 3.7's, VPI Classic 4 w/ 12" printed arm, etc) and I have a chance to get a pair of Premier 140's that were especially built by CJ for a friend as Mono blocks. While the Pass drives the Maggie's nicely they lack the depth and "presence" that I like. Any opinions if the CJ's would rectify this? This system only gets used about 50 hours a year so I don't want to pour big bucks into it and I can grab these for a reasonable amount.
              Maggies and cj amplifiers are a match made in heaven. They love that 4 ohm load. I don't think even the "normal" 140s would have an issue with the 3.7s. It's really the bigger ones that are a bit power hungry. That said, I reviewed the original MG20s with the Premier 140 and the only issue was a slight slapping of the bass panel.

              You may or may not though find yourself playing with the fuse on the Maggie tweeter. The Premier 140 is just a little soft on top. cj's later LP and now ART series opened up the top end. To get that depth and presence you crave, you might want to match the cj with some Transparent Audio. Not that others are bad but that's what cj primarily uses in designing their products along with Wilson Audio speakers.
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