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    Curious to what music/CD you are using to burn-in/break in gear, especially speakers. I think I read somewhere that Dave Wilson recommends using Baroque music for breaking in his speakers? Is that true, and if so, anyone know what's the theory behind that? There are also many dedicated burn in/system enhancements CDs one can use as well.

    I'm sure folks will play music they like during a listening session, but I'm more curious about if anything special is used just to break-in and while not listening.


    thx
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    I really have a hard time convincing myself that burn-in exists on SS equipment. A couple hours to get things heated up and making sure it doesn't have a failure and burn off any residue from soldering etc, is my only concern. I understand tube gear is somewhat different. Speakers do IMHO need some burn-in to loosen up the speaker surrounds etc. I run music at a lower level that really covers a lot of different frequencies. I used to use burn in discs etc, but I found that in my systems just staying patient is the best way to burn them in. If I go to a shop and listen to speakers I usually carry a stack of music with me that tests the speakers ranges etc. I use the same music for burn-in

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    • #3
      Originally posted by allenh View Post
      Curious to what music/CD you are using to burn-in/break in gear, especially speakers. I think I read somewhere that Dave Wilson recommends using Baroque music for breaking in his speakers? Is that true, and if so, anyone know what's the theory behind that? There are also many dedicated burn in/system enhancements CDs one can use as well.

      I'm sure folks will play music they like during a listening session, but I'm more curious about if anything special is used just to break-in and while not listening.


      thx
      Well if you have a cartridge, recordings with low energy work well.

      I once asked George Cardas that: his answer was waves breaking on a beach and environmental sounds. Now I don't know what album he was referring to but the message was something was a lot of different frequencies. There are a couple of different CDs out there to break systems in. Gary Koh once recommended the Isotek disk to me:

      Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
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      • #4
        Baroque music, seriously? Use a white noise generator, it contains all freq at the same level. I face the speakers at each other with one out of phase and play them this way while running errands, etc.

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      • #5
        Originally posted by mshump View Post
        I really have a hard time convincing myself that burn-in exists on SS equipment. A couple hours to get things heated up and making sure it doesn't have a failure and burn off any residue from soldering etc, is my only concern. I understand tube gear is somewhat different. Speakers do IMHO need some burn-in to loosen up the speaker surrounds etc. I run music at a lower level that really covers a lot of different frequencies. I used to use burn in discs etc, but I found that in my systems just staying patient is the best way to burn them in. If I go to a shop and listen to speakers I usually carry a stack of music with me that tests the speakers ranges etc. I use the same music for burn-in
        Thanks, mshump, this is what I do, too. But I recall hearing some very specific recommendations before (see Myles' post) and wondered if those are more effective than what we are doing.
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        • #6
          Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post

          Well if you have a cartridge, recordings with low energy work well.

          I once asked George Cardas that: his answer was waves breaking on a beach and environmental sounds. Now I don't know what album he was referring to but the message was something was a lot of different frequencies. There are a couple of different CDs out there to break systems in. Gary Koh once recommended the Isotek disk to me:

          https://www.gcaudio.com/cgi-bin/stor...uct.cgi?id=478
          Originally posted by Rob View Post
          Baroque music, seriously? Use a white noise generator, it contains all freq at the same level. I face the speakers at each other with one out of phase and play them this way while running errands, etc.

          Yup, I sort of remember reading that. Think it was on AS. Myles' breaking waves sounds familiar too.

          I have an earlier version of the IsoTek CD. That's the break-in/burn-in CD I was thinking of, but there are others. Just a series of weird noises vs. real music. Maybe I'll try one night...
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          • #7
            If you want to try white noise for burn in, you can obtain white noise.wav clips off the internet, burn them to CD-R, and then play them in a CD player on repeat mode.
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