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    Why vinyl hype is destroying the record!

    http://www.factmag.com/2015/05/07/pr...he-edge-vinyl/
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    Chad produces laquers for quality records. As long as he is still pressing records, I will be happy. Many of these other outfits doing rock/pop reissues are using digital to cut their laquers. I have no use for them.
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    • #3
      Now now johnny not all dodgital is bad. For me if it's from tape to dsd and that would be used for laquer it might be even better lol. But I get your point though. Honestly how much can can assured of its purity meaning chain of custody
      and then how much is your faverite in quality. How surprised would you analog people be if the good stuff was from dsd from tape
      i am at a point of both disgust and exhaustion trying to find what I think is great or pure. I feel we are looking for a virgin ina White House at times. Lol
      analog stuff.
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      • #4
        Johnny I just read the article there is much more then just where the master sound comes from.
        Regarding chad there is no blind eye with me period we are as are and so is our makers of our music. He is not always pure to heart either I can prove his to anyone Ina min actually abuoit 40 seconds or so lol. But I do love his stuff where ever it really comes from.
        analog stuff.
        otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 made new by soren
        otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 1/2 combo made new by soren
        sota sapphire used eminent tech ver 2 arm
        new sota nova table has magnetic levitation platter and full speed control and latest motor same arm as above
        thorens td124 sme ver 2 arm
        thorens td125 sme ver 2 arm
        kenwood direct drive sme ver 2 arm
        phono preamp Ml no 25 all re capped
        speakers cust infinity IRS V , new caps and LPS , magnets etc.
        mark levivson pre no 26 amps no 33
        digital three cust servers , win ser 2016 , AO
        Dacs lampi various

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        • #5
          Hey...I'm only the messenger and posted this as an FYI only.
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          • #6
            I only mean well. Not being serious. If you meant me. I love this place and all of the posters. But I do feel this Hobby is driving me crazy. As I get closer it moves a way lol.
            analog stuff.
            otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 made new by soren
            otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 1/2 combo made new by soren
            sota sapphire used eminent tech ver 2 arm
            new sota nova table has magnetic levitation platter and full speed control and latest motor same arm as above
            thorens td124 sme ver 2 arm
            thorens td125 sme ver 2 arm
            kenwood direct drive sme ver 2 arm
            phono preamp Ml no 25 all re capped
            speakers cust infinity IRS V , new caps and LPS , magnets etc.
            mark levivson pre no 26 amps no 33
            digital three cust servers , win ser 2016 , AO
            Dacs lampi various

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            • cpp
              #6.1
              cpp commented
              07-10-2016, 05:43 PM
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              There is always Prozac for that crazy feeling
            • siddh
              #6.2
              siddh commented
              07-13-2016, 12:03 AM
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              Interesting observation, Al. I have often been troubled by this similar conundrum, in that the closer I get to the "absolute sound", the more the flaws make themselves audible.
          • #7
            and they said it was over when:

            they stopped making vacuum tubes

            stereo was introduced

            the radio replaced records

            and

            the 78 was phased out in favor of the 10" LP.

            Just remember, in the immortal words of John Belushi,

            We did not give up after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

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            • #8
              One thing I know is that if a profit can be made someone will step up to make presses, lacquers, etc.
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              • #9
                Originally posted by Bill Hart View Post
                and they said it was over when:

                they stopped making vacuum tubes

                stereo was introduced

                the radio replaced records

                and

                the 78 was phased out in favor of the 10" LP.

                Just remember, in the immortal words of John Belushi,

                We did not give up after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.
                Hell I wrote my first article on record inner sleeves (Paper or Plastic? Vinyl's Final Resting Spot) back in the early '90s because MOFI was going to discontinue making record sleeves. Bought a ton load of MOFI inner sleeves back then just to hedge my bets (as well as picking up around 800 VRP inner sleeves from an eBay seller around five years ago) and now have about a 2000 inner sleeves ferreted away.
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                • #10
                  Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post

                  Hell I wrote my first article on record inner sleeves (Paper or Plastic? Vinyl's Final Resting Spot) back in the early '90s because MOFI was going to discontinue making record sleeves. Bought a ton load of MOFI inner sleeves back then just to hedge my bets (as well as picking up around 800 VRP inner sleeves from an eBay seller around five years ago) and now have about a 2000 inner sleeves ferreted away.
                  Myles- think your comment above was intended to go in the thread on vinyl hazing/plasticizer leaching, not here? Maybe not, it's the theme of obsolescence that doesn't occur, but it also works in that thread....

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by Bill Hart View Post

                    Myles- think your comment above was intended to go in the thread on vinyl hazing/plasticizer leaching, not here? Maybe not, it's the theme of obsolescence that doesn't occur, but it also works in that thread....
                    No was meant to be another example of something that was going the way of the dodo bird and didn't.
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                    -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
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                    -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                    -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                    -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                    -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
                    -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.1+ platforms.

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                    • #12
                      So far we've not had any troubles getting lacquers or styli, although we've not been ordering in large quantities.

                      I also think something is exaggerated in that article. When a lacquer comes in to a pressing plant, they plate it right away. Once that is done it might be a while (weeks or months) before you can get a test pressing, but once the plating has been done the storage can be for years with no worries.

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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by atmasphere View Post
                        So far we've not had any troubles getting lacquers or styli, although we've not been ordering in large quantities.

                        I also think something is exaggerated in that article. When a lacquer comes in to a pressing plant, they plate it right away. Once that is done it might be a while (weeks or months) before you can get a test pressing, but once the plating has been done the storage can be for years with no worries.
                        Ralph's absolutely right about that! At worst, it's 24 hours because of shipping (for instance say in the old days when many had their lacquers plated and pressed by Teldec). For the best facilities--RTI, QRP, MOFI, TML and I'm sure a few others I've forgotten (don't know about Pallas)--they have both the mastering and plating on site.
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                        -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                        -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                        -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                        -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                        -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
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                        • #14
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