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    Unwritten Audio Murphy Laws

    Why does it seem that every time you pay $100 or $200 for a rare, hard to find, long sought after record, another one pops up a couple of days later for $10? So here's the question? Do you buy both? (Hint: I do )

    Why is it that "final" turntable ( or insert anything here) you'll ever buy only lasts a couple of years? (How many bought tables in the '80s saying that?)
    Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
    Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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    -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
    -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
    -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
    -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
    -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
    -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
    -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
    -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
    -Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
    -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.
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      Originally posted by MylesBAstor
      Why is it that "final" turntable ( or insert anything here) you'll ever buy only lasts a couple of years? (How many bought tables in the '80s saying that?)
      Me! Had my Linn since 1984!
      Steve Lefkowicz
      Senior Associate Editor at Positive Feedback
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      Analog 1: Linn LP12 (MOSE/Hercules II), Ittok, Dynavector 10X5 MK.II Low, iPhono2/iPowerX; Analog 2: Pro-Ject RPM-1 Carbon, Talisman S, iFi iPhono.
      Digital: Geekom Mini PC (i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, JRiver Media Center 29, Tidal HiFi, Qobuz Studio), iFi NEO iDSD, iFi iUSB3, iPurifier2, Audioquest Jitterbug FMJ.
      Electronics: Khozmo Stereo Passive with AMRG Ladder Attenuator and "NewClassD" Active Stage, Antique Sound Labs MG-SI15DT-S, Burson Timekeeper Virtuoso
      Speakers: Tekton Perfect SET 15, Tekton Lore, Magneplaner .7, GoldenEar BRX
      Interconnects: Morrow Audio MA1, Vermouth Audio Black Pearl, Audioquest Evergreen
      Speaker cables: Morrow Audio SP4, Vermouth Audio Red Velvet, Audioquest Type 5
      Digital cables: Aural Symphonics USB, iFi Gemini twin-head USB.
      Accessories: Sound Organization turntable shelf, Mondo racks, Pangea Audio Vulcan rack, AV Room Services EVPs under the speakers, Pi Audio Group Über BUSS, Monster HTS2000 power conditioner, Kinetronics anti-static brush, Pro-Ject VC-S record cleaner, Spin Clean record cleaner.
      Headphones: Schiit Valhalla amp, Burson Conductor Virtuoso Amp, Meze Audio 99 Classic and 99 Neo, Beyerdynamic DT770Pro 600 ohm, 1More Triple Driver Over Ear, 1More Triple Driver IEM
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        • #3
          I promise I will not be buying another tt ever, I may however change the arm or wiring. I will try different cartridges as time goes on...
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            • #4
              Originally posted by MylesBAstor
              Why does it seem that every time you pay $100 or $200 for a rare, hard to find, long sought after record, another one pops up a couple of days later for $10? So here's the question? Do you buy both? (Hint: I do )
              Thankfully I've never had that happen. I've seen some at perhaps a 25% lower price, but nothing as dramatic as your example. If I did I would certainly buy it.
              Dynavector DV20x2L MC cartridge - Genesis G7.1f speakers - Marantz Reference PM-KI-Pearl Int. Amp. - Oracle Audio Paris MkV turntable - Various Morrow & Valab/King cables
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                • #5
                  Ive been on my "final" TT and tonearm for 16 years ( knock on wood ).
                  Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver Interconnects
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                    • #6
                      I've only had my Oracle for less than 2 years, so yeah...likely my last one.
                      Dynavector DV20x2L MC cartridge - Genesis G7.1f speakers - Marantz Reference PM-KI-Pearl Int. Amp. - Oracle Audio Paris MkV turntable - Various Morrow & Valab/King cables
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                        • #7
                          1. Whatever you write in Audio on a public forum will be fiercely criticised in direct proportion to the amount of science referenced...

                          2. The day you try and demo your system to Mr X or worse Mr and Mrs X...nothing will work properly. Not 3D, not audio, or video, it will be that day/moment that something in your AV Chain will break. The fuse will blow...

                          3. Your favourite new gear will suffer a complete shutdown three weeks after you install it. Corollary: The distance you have to send it for repair is proportional to the price you paid for it...

                          4. The most expensive equipment will fail...due to the cheapest component in the supply chain.

                          5. Upgrading is an incurable disease...



                          Just a few examples of AV Murphy at Work!
                          John M. Read PhD CPsychol;
                          Oppo 103D SE, Cocktail Audio X40 SE, Marantz TT15S1 turntable. Marantz AV8802A SE, Burmester 897 Upgraded with phonostage. Emotiva XPA5, Marantz MM8077 SE, Finale Galliard 829B SE, Line Magnetic 518ia (SG Ver). Time Portal interconnect cables. Furman Elite Pfi 20, Power Transformer. PMC Twenty26, Sound Dynamics Centre and Bookshelf Dipole rears, Atacama stands, MartinLogan in-ceilings and rears, IDEA & Velodyn 12" subs. All SE by The Upgrade Company, Michigan USA.
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                            • #8
                              One more...

                              6. Cognitive dissonance (when you identify the reasons why you don't like the alternatives and confirm your chosen item) doesn't work in AV. Constant frustration is the norm...cheaper, better, higher, upgraded...feeling like a victim is the new normal in AV.
                              John M. Read PhD CPsychol;
                              Oppo 103D SE, Cocktail Audio X40 SE, Marantz TT15S1 turntable. Marantz AV8802A SE, Burmester 897 Upgraded with phonostage. Emotiva XPA5, Marantz MM8077 SE, Finale Galliard 829B SE, Line Magnetic 518ia (SG Ver). Time Portal interconnect cables. Furman Elite Pfi 20, Power Transformer. PMC Twenty26, Sound Dynamics Centre and Bookshelf Dipole rears, Atacama stands, MartinLogan in-ceilings and rears, IDEA & Velodyn 12" subs. All SE by The Upgrade Company, Michigan USA.
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                                • #9
                                  Try vintage audio, you get used to that. You can spend years looking for something and pay full value for it and a couple of days later another can show up at a fraction of the price because someone needs the money or doesn't know what they have, maybe it's not even in the same condition but makes you feel like crap. My suggestion is just live with it and enjoy your purchase!

                                  david
                                  Last edited by david k; 09-21-2016, 07:35 AM.
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                                    • MylesBAstor
                                      #9.1
                                      MylesBAstor commented
                                      09-21-2016, 06:01 AM
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                                      Ha! Good one!
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                                      The likelihood of you dropping and damaging a Lp while replacing it into its sleeve is directly proportional to how rare and expensive the Lp is.
                                      Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver Interconnects
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                                        • MylesBAstor
                                          #10.1
                                          MylesBAstor commented
                                          09-21-2016, 06:00 AM
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                                          Or dropping a record clamp on it!
                                        • #11
                                          Couple of others that come to mind.

                                          The system always sounds the best just before something is going to break.

                                          Or the corollary. It always sounds the worst when you have an audiobuddy over.
                                          Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                                          Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                                          ________________________________________

                                          -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                                          -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
                                          -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                                          -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                                          -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                                          -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                                          -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
                                          -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                                          -Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
                                          -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.
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                                            • #12
                                              We're going well here

                                              im sure there's a host of these for hi fi shows...from dealers and customers alike...

                                              1. The Hotel will move your room just as soon as you've made your ideal plan in the current one. Corollary...there's only one power plug within reach of your new display area...and its faulty. 🔚
                                              John M. Read PhD CPsychol;
                                              Oppo 103D SE, Cocktail Audio X40 SE, Marantz TT15S1 turntable. Marantz AV8802A SE, Burmester 897 Upgraded with phonostage. Emotiva XPA5, Marantz MM8077 SE, Finale Galliard 829B SE, Line Magnetic 518ia (SG Ver). Time Portal interconnect cables. Furman Elite Pfi 20, Power Transformer. PMC Twenty26, Sound Dynamics Centre and Bookshelf Dipole rears, Atacama stands, MartinLogan in-ceilings and rears, IDEA & Velodyn 12" subs. All SE by The Upgrade Company, Michigan USA.
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                                                • #13
                                                  If you push the power button and soon hear music your system isn't high end.
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                                                    • #14
                                                      Just after you acquire a high end tuner and antenna, your favorite station signs off the air...
                                                      Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver Interconnects
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                                                        • #15
                                                          The likelihood of a major system failure is directly proportional to the importance and distance traveled by your visitor
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