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    I've been struggling for sometime ( years) for a permanent record storage solution. After a move , temporary residence and new home - all this has occurred over the past 5 years , I decided it was time to engage a viable storage solution. I have not really had a good way to store records through all this as I propped them up against walls or filed them in milk crates.

    I had some parameters:
    • It had to be front facing flip through- I hate looking at splines. My eyes can't deal with splines anymore.
    • It couldn't be Ikea - I went through this and although reasonable in cost I didn't like the the construction and don't like press board and cardboard. I see an uncanny amount of it in the trash each week as people get rid of this stuff in my University town.
    • It had to be robust and movable so that I could clean behind the storage as dust accumulated
    • It had to be easily repeatable if had to build more

    Here is the dilemma:

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    Here's a small prototype of my solution:

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    Here is more of it :

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    Welded space frame



    Here is a mock of of the final solution:

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    Black walnut front and maple sides dovetail joined.


    I have 24 bin openings to complete on this first round:

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    All work done by local fabricators- local welder and local production wood shop that supplies custom cabinet shops in the area. While not cheap, very reasonable for the quality. Especially so, if you consider robust commercial solutions like Boltz ( that don't even come close to this look and customization) Boltz would be way more money for less IMO.

    I'll add a walnut top of some sort so that I can place things on top too. I'll have to work through that.

    I've got my work cut out for me installing the slides - but I've worked out jigs to make it go as fast as possible. This will store about 2000 albums and it will keep my primary stash organized . The rest of the stash can wait till I get ambitious again in another 5 yrs. or so----or not. The small bins will be close to the turntable and will house my "go-to" albums close by.

    I'll post the final solution in the next weeks as I complete this.

    Thanks.
    Phono: Aesthetix Io Eclipse with 2 Power Supplies and Volume controls
    Brinkmann Balance & RonT Tube Power supply with Kuzma 4-point ,FR64S, Brinkmann 12.1 , .Koetsu Jade Platinum,Koetsu Rosewood Signature Platinum, Lyra Atlas Lamda, Lyra Etna SL Goldfinger Statement, KLAUDIO RCM, HRSM3X
    Amps: Custom Direct Drive, Wyetech Topaz, Futterman H3 Quad II,Citation II, Marantz 8b, 5 ,2. Bedini 25/25
    Pre-Amps:Marantz 7, Marantz Model 1 Consolette Pair
    Speakers: Beveridge Model 3 Direct Drive amps, REL S/2 x 2, Quad ESL pair
    Otari 5050BXII, DeHavilland 222

  • #2
    That's pretty cool. Will your wood shop stain and finish? I have 25 wood 'crates' from Tony's Wood Shop and it was a pita to stain, sand, and apply three coats of polyacrylic. The slide-out flip through approach is very nice. What's the highest the top level will sit to allow that?

    I thought there was a thread on record storage and there is; It's kinda hard to find. Myles maybe there could be a section under Analog for stuff like this??

    Record Storage

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    • kcin
      kcin commented
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      Hi these drawers are finished in a satin clear but not stained. The shop I used is more of a production shop that wholesales to cabinet makers. They don't get into painting/staining/finishing etc..they leave that to the small shops. They will router out for specialized slides etc. on request. I couldn't begin to reproduce these for what they charged me . This one instance where economies of scale actually work out for the little guy. These sit about 42" high on the casters.

  • #3
    lookin good, I like your aesthetic sensibilities IMO casters are underrated and very functional. my only reservation is potentially unbalancing the rack when puling out the top bin, like an over loaded file cabinet wanting to fall forward when you do that.
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    • #4
      Impressive. Like that you can flip through the records.
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      • #5
        Originally posted by Rob View Post
        lookin good, I like your aesthetic sensibilities IMO casters are underrated and very functional. my only reservation is potentially unbalancing the rack when puling out the top bin, like an over loaded file cabinet wanting to fall forward when you do that.
        .
        I pre- tested it with a loaded mock-up of each bin solution. No way it moves. there will be 4-500 lbs ballast below when opening a top shelf. Of course I'm only going open I bin at a time .
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        Amps: Custom Direct Drive, Wyetech Topaz, Futterman H3 Quad II,Citation II, Marantz 8b, 5 ,2. Bedini 25/25
        Pre-Amps:Marantz 7, Marantz Model 1 Consolette Pair
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        • #6
          Flipping through your collection should be very nice. How many records are in your collection? All the commercial stores seem to be just one bin at the proper level. with adjacent bins sharing a common wall. . They stack extra records below, which generally means squatting or sitting on a small stool with the bin above you. The bins are deeper than yours and definitely are not designed to move around. Good luck on your project.

          Larry
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          • #7
            I'm totally down with the face forward approach. I haven't researched any store bought solutions, and figured I'd just need to have what I want custom made. At the same time, I really like the look of floor to ceiling shelves with a library ladder. I know I'll figure out something. First step will be to have a building constructed. But, I gotta start somewhere. I'm working on it....

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            • #8
              Originally posted by astrotoy View Post
              Flipping through your collection should be very nice. How many records are in your collection? All the commercial stores seem to be just one bin at the proper level. with adjacent bins sharing a common wall. . They stack extra records below, which generally means squatting or sitting on a small stool with the bin above you. The bins are deeper than yours and definitely are not designed to move around. Good luck on your project.

              Larry
              Thanks, I could not find what I wanted commercially & I got tired of trying to get cabinet makers to fit me in to their schedule. I really wanted to be able to move the collection on wheels if desired. for cleaning - so in the end, like a lot of things around here I end up doing it my self rather than wait for a contractor. I also wanted a modern sleeker look this time.
              ​​​​​​
              I can get in to see a physician easier than booking a contractor or cabinet maker around here! I probably have 4000 or so records. I culled maybe 2000 before my last move.
              Phono: Aesthetix Io Eclipse with 2 Power Supplies and Volume controls
              Brinkmann Balance & RonT Tube Power supply with Kuzma 4-point ,FR64S, Brinkmann 12.1 , .Koetsu Jade Platinum,Koetsu Rosewood Signature Platinum, Lyra Atlas Lamda, Lyra Etna SL Goldfinger Statement, KLAUDIO RCM, HRSM3X
              Amps: Custom Direct Drive, Wyetech Topaz, Futterman H3 Quad II,Citation II, Marantz 8b, 5 ,2. Bedini 25/25
              Pre-Amps:Marantz 7, Marantz Model 1 Consolette Pair
              Speakers: Beveridge Model 3 Direct Drive amps, REL S/2 x 2, Quad ESL pair
              Otari 5050BXII, DeHavilland 222

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              • #9
                Originally posted by kcin View Post
                I've been struggling for sometime ( years) for a permanent record storage solution. After a move , temporary residence and new home - all this has occurred over the past 5 years , I decided it was time to engage a viable storage solution. I have not really had a good way to store records through all this as I propped them up against walls or filed them in milk crates.

                I had some parameters:
                • It had to be front facing flip through- I hate looking at splines. My eyes can't deal with splines anymore.
                • It couldn't be Ikea - I went through this and although reasonable in cost I didn't like the the construction and don't like press board and cardboard. I see an uncanny amount of it in the trash each week as people get rid of this stuff in my University town.
                • It had to be robust and movable so that I could clean behind the storage as dust accumulated
                • It had to be easily repeatable if had to build more

                Here is the dilemma:

                Click image for larger version Name:	IMG_1973.JPG Views:	1 Size:	130.3 KB ID:	45174



                Here's a small prototype of my solution:

                Click image for larger version Name:	IMG_1975.JPG Views:	1 Size:	84.9 KB ID:	45175


                Here is more of it :

                Click image for larger version Name:	IMG_1974.JPG Views:	1 Size:	102.7 KB ID:	45176
                Welded space frame



                Here is a mock of of the final solution:

                Click image for larger version Name:	IMG_1978.JPG Views:	1 Size:	99.1 KB ID:	45177

                Black walnut front and maple sides dovetail joined.


                I have 24 bin openings to complete on this first round:

                Click image for larger version Name:	IMG_1979.JPG Views:	1 Size:	103.8 KB ID:	45178


                All work done by local fabricators- local welder and local production wood shop that supplies custom cabinet shops in the area. While not cheap, very reasonable for the quality. Especially so, if you consider robust commercial solutions like Boltz ( that don't even come close to this look and customization) Boltz would be way more money for less IMO.

                I'll add a walnut top of some sort so that I can place things on top too. I'll have to work through that.

                I've got my work cut out for me installing the slides - but I've worked out jigs to make it go as fast as possible. This will store about 2000 albums and it will keep my primary stash organized . The rest of the stash can wait till I get ambitious again in another 5 yrs. or so----or not. The small bins will be close to the turntable and will house my "go-to" albums close by.

                I'll post the final solution in the next weeks as I complete this.

                Thanks.
                Very nice.
                Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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                • #10
                  Originally posted by Bill Hart View Post
                  I'm totally down with the face forward approach. I haven't researched any store bought solutions, and figured I'd just need to have what I want custom made. At the same time, I really like the look of floor to ceiling shelves with a library ladder. I know I'll figure out something. First step will be to have a building constructed. But, I gotta start somewhere. I'm working on it....
                  There's the LP bin approach. Around $239 and holds 560 albums.

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                  Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                  Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                  ________________________________________

                  -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                  -Goldmund Telos 300 stereo amp
                  -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                  -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                  -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                  -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                  -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                  -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                  -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
                  -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.1+ platforms.

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                  • astrotoy
                    astrotoy commented
                    Editing a comment
                    Looks like those are about 30" wide. For my collection I would need about about 68 linear feet of cabinets, each filled to capacity! Right now my record racks (mostly Per Madsen Rack-its stacked 6 high) take up 41 linear feet - about all my not too small room can hold. No, and I don't like to look at the spines of the records!

                    Larry

                  • MylesBAstor
                    MylesBAstor commented
                    Editing a comment
                    Oh I agree. This bin would, however, make sense for those frequently played albums. Instead of sitting on the floor.

                    But other than that-unless you have a small LP collection-it's not a very efficient use of space. At least in a Manhattan apartment.

                  • kcin
                    kcin commented
                    Editing a comment
                    I've got this one- in fact 2- poorly packed for such a heavy piece and 1 came out damaged . Not very well constructed IMO.

                • #11
                  Seeing the bin (above.) I suspect flip-through organization needs index dividers. Otherwise you're pawing through records or looking at splines sideways.

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                  • #12
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                    Only 22 more bins to go --I decided to paint my room so my productivity on these is slow.

                    ... I also added a bin below my turntable stand for nick knacks.. I'll line it with 2" foam. ( this stand was from a Goldmund Reference and the 200lb brass plate loads it on top) .


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                    Phono: Aesthetix Io Eclipse with 2 Power Supplies and Volume controls
                    Brinkmann Balance & RonT Tube Power supply with Kuzma 4-point ,FR64S, Brinkmann 12.1 , .Koetsu Jade Platinum,Koetsu Rosewood Signature Platinum, Lyra Atlas Lamda, Lyra Etna SL Goldfinger Statement, KLAUDIO RCM, HRSM3X
                    Amps: Custom Direct Drive, Wyetech Topaz, Futterman H3 Quad II,Citation II, Marantz 8b, 5 ,2. Bedini 25/25
                    Pre-Amps:Marantz 7, Marantz Model 1 Consolette Pair
                    Speakers: Beveridge Model 3 Direct Drive amps, REL S/2 x 2, Quad ESL pair
                    Otari 5050BXII, DeHavilland 222

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                    • MylesBAstor
                      MylesBAstor commented
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                      Where do you find the time?

                  • #13
                    Nice solution!

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                    • #14
                      Time lapse record storage solution:

                      22 pairs of drawer slides:


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                      Lots of drilling and fitting:


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                      I believe they turned out well:

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                      Took most of my day to " file and fit" now just to organize the collection. This will do almost 2000 albums. If I feel like it I will build another set after I catch my breath. The other stock of records will have to wait.

                      Phono: Aesthetix Io Eclipse with 2 Power Supplies and Volume controls
                      Brinkmann Balance & RonT Tube Power supply with Kuzma 4-point ,FR64S, Brinkmann 12.1 , .Koetsu Jade Platinum,Koetsu Rosewood Signature Platinum, Lyra Atlas Lamda, Lyra Etna SL Goldfinger Statement, KLAUDIO RCM, HRSM3X
                      Amps: Custom Direct Drive, Wyetech Topaz, Futterman H3 Quad II,Citation II, Marantz 8b, 5 ,2. Bedini 25/25
                      Pre-Amps:Marantz 7, Marantz Model 1 Consolette Pair
                      Speakers: Beveridge Model 3 Direct Drive amps, REL S/2 x 2, Quad ESL pair
                      Otari 5050BXII, DeHavilland 222

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                      • #15
                        Really nice, simple but functional, beautiful aesthetic! Congrats on a great job.

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