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    Maybe I am old and cranky but the truth is I have always felt this way. Be st playing a live album or being there. I do not want the audience to make noise during the performance. Fine at the end and fine when the band comes out. It's also fine of the band asked for it
    but it just drives me crazy with people who feel they need to scream or applaud first before it's done or even worse as they are in the middle.
    Joe Jackson has many live tracks on his albums but makes the audience stay silent.
    For me it's hiw ot should be like classical music.
    How do others feel.
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    If you are old you are cranky all other emotions are pointless

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    • #3
      It all depends in the situation. Hard to make a blanket statement about this. Plenty of great music presumes listener/dancer/partier response. Music is often a social experience, although I can appreciate the desire not to be unduly distracted by rude interrupters of certain musical performances.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Alrainbow View Post
        Maybe I am old and cranky but the truth is I have always felt this way. Be st playing a live album or being there. I do not want the audience to make noise during the performance. Fine at the end and fine when the band comes out. It's also fine of the band asked for it
        but it just drives me crazy with people who feel they need to scream or applaud first before it's done or even worse as they are in the middle.
        Joe Jackson has many live tracks on his albums but makes the audience stay silent.
        For me it's hiw ot should be like classical music.
        How do others feel.
        What about jazz where it's customary to applaud after a solo?
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        • #5
          As long as it doesn't interfere with the presentation of the song(s) I'm fine with it.
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          • #6
            Sorry but I have an issue with clapping on any recording. It is nails on a chalk board for me.

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            • #7
              It depends. In the case of Framptons live album the cut Do You Feel Like I Do, it becomes sort of a call and response between the artist and audience. In the classic end of things audience noise is unwelcome.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rust View Post
                It depends. In the case of Framptons live album the cut Do You Feel Like I Do, it becomes sort of a call and response between the artist and audience. In the classic end of things audience noise is unwelcome.
                Excellent example!
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                • #9
                  I have plenty of live albums where the audience is hooting and hollering throughout. It doesn't bother me much--unless the music or song is such that it really calls for silence (or as close to it as is possible in a live setting). The audience in Lou Reed's Rock n Roll Animal is kinda over the top, but then again, the music is kinda over the top.
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                  • #10
                    Although it's inevitable there will be some participation, on albums like Neil Young's Massey Hall 1971 and that old warhorse Jazz At The Pawnshop it was very low key. In the latter's case I think was an essential part of the overall presentation and contributed greatly to the overall success of the album.
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                    • #11
                      I have always had a problem with excess and/or inappropriate audience noises. The most annoying sounds for me are loud whistling; even during applause it's usually unpleasant, during the music it's worse than nails on a chalkboard. The other quite annoying problem has been mentioned in many places before, it's the tendency of audiences during the last 20-30 years to talk incessantly during a performance.

                      I have no problem at all with clapping.
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                      • MylesBAstor
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                        I have more of a problem with idiots (usually tourists) standing up at jazz clubs to take pictures and blocking my view. Had to ask the GM one night at Smoke to tell this person to sit their butt down.

                    • #12
                      I stay away from popular music concerts because of the "party atmosphere." If I am interested enough to buy a ticket and go I want to enjoy what I paid for. Applause for jazz solos? I like it. Applause between movements of a symphony? The hair stands up on the back of my neck. Rustling of programs during a concert? Can't stand it. They should stop handing out programs which just become a fidgeting toy for fidgeters. The people who insist on trying to find the blurb written about the music being performed while it is being performed should have something bad happen to them as they do it. Applause on recordings? I like it if really included as part of the recorded performance so I feel as though I am there. If the recording engineer eliminates better than 50% of the audience i don't like it. Include it or eliminate it totally.
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                      • #13
                        Though slightly different, I both dig and hate the sound of the audience. Take for instance, live jazz recording. Where you can hear the talking, silverware being dropped, corks being popped, etc. something like Bill Evans Waltz for Debby or Bill Henderson doing Send in the Clowns.

                        Same goes for audience singing along on say The Weavers at Carnegie Hall. Or Belafonte at Carnegie. Or try Michel Jonasz's Mister Swing. After all, that's why it's live.

                        One of the coolest live audience participation recordings-and it's only available on CD-is The Flirtations Live. Still available and worth picking up. This recording really captures the essence of this amazing gay acapella group out of New York outing many popular tunes. Saw them live at Carnegie before the lead singer died of AIDS and the members of the group all had amazing voices. In fact, only time I've ever been at Carnegie Hall and there was a line to get into the Men's room! 😁
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                        • #14
                          Thanjs all
                          analog stuff.
                          otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 made new by soren
                          otari mtr 10 2 track 1/4 1/2 combo made new by soren
                          sota sapphire used eminent tech ver 2 arm
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                          thorens td124 sme ver 2 arm
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