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  • New Magico Speaker?

    To be unveiled in Munich? Passive or being actively being played is the question. New mini M-series?

    Andre caught this one!


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    Based on the perceived size of the drivers, It looks like a better Q3, along the M-Pro line. This is REALLY exciting
    Analog: VPI Aries 3, custom suspension + platter interface || Magnetically stabilized JMW 10.5i || Ortofon A90 || Modded & fully shielded Pass XP-25 || Last gen VPI SDS speed controller || Magnum Dynalab MD-90SE/105 Digital: Spectral 3000SL || Fully shielded Yggdrasil 2 Amplification: Spectral DMC-30SV || DMA-500AR Speakers: Heavily modded MartinLogan (custom Mundorf dual xover, cabling, woofers, xformer; structural mods) || Modded REL sub Cabling: Fully shielded MIT Oracle 50ic,MA-X,90.1 || Shunyata Alpha v2,Omega AES/EBU Power: Shunyata Denali 6000/S v2, Venom XC and NR cords, SR-Z1 outlets, Typhon. Tweaks: Isodamp, mumetal, 3M AB5100, Dynamat, Copper foil; Vishay diodes, resistors, Mundorf coils & capacitors

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    • #3
      Wow, at first I thought it looked just like my M-Pro, but I guess the woofers are smaller. Did the Q3 have 3 bass drivers?
      Magico M-Project, CAT JL7SE, CH Precision L1/X1/P1, Kronos Pro Limited Edition/SME 3012R/Atlas SL/Opus-1, Schiit Yggdrasil, ZenWave D4 ICs & SCs

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ack View Post
        Based on the perceived size of the drivers, It looks like a better Q3, along the M-Pro line. This is REALLY exciting

        As Andre pointed out to Mark and me, the rounded cabinet, top plate and CF sides point to an M-Project rather than Q-series line. I'll ask Alon if he wants to comment. Maybe on May 1st he'll comment!

        Just guessing but the new speaker might be between the S7 and Q7 in price.
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        • #5
          Looks like a Q3, with different sides/top!
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          • #6
            We'll have to wait until this weekend everyone to get the scoop!
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            -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
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            -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
            -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
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            -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
            -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
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            -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.1+ platforms.

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            • #7
              Here's a better picture (click it)

              Analog: VPI Aries 3, custom suspension + platter interface || Magnetically stabilized JMW 10.5i || Ortofon A90 || Modded & fully shielded Pass XP-25 || Last gen VPI SDS speed controller || Magnum Dynalab MD-90SE/105 Digital: Spectral 3000SL || Fully shielded Yggdrasil 2 Amplification: Spectral DMC-30SV || DMA-500AR Speakers: Heavily modded MartinLogan (custom Mundorf dual xover, cabling, woofers, xformer; structural mods) || Modded REL sub Cabling: Fully shielded MIT Oracle 50ic,MA-X,90.1 || Shunyata Alpha v2,Omega AES/EBU Power: Shunyata Denali 6000/S v2, Venom XC and NR cords, SR-Z1 outlets, Typhon. Tweaks: Isodamp, mumetal, 3M AB5100, Dynamat, Copper foil; Vishay diodes, resistors, Mundorf coils & capacitors

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              • #8
                I can't keep up with new Magico and Wilson speaker models... before I can memorize the latest model, here come another new ones...It's close to buying a latest DAC or a PC... good thing I'm neither a Magico nor a Wilson owner.
                Last edited by Ki Choi; 04-28-2016, 08:26 PM.

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                • #9
                  A little more of the puzzle revealed. I'm with Andre. Notice the midrange enclosure developed for the S3 that has filtered its way into all the speaker models. If I'm correct, the speaker also looks easier to machine. Not all one extruded piece? But you see the bracing originally developed for the Q series.

                  Birth of the M-series? I mean if you have heard the M-Pros--and I know Andre and of course Ian have--they are a very special speaker. I've not heard a quieter speaker and with that just comes more resolution. Less obscuring of information.
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                  Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                  Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                  ________________________________________

                  -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                  -Goldmund Telos 300 stereo amp
                  -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                  -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                  -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                  -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                  -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                  -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                  -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
                  -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.1+ platforms.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ki Choi View Post
                    I can't keep up with new Magico and Wilson speaker models... before I can memorize the latest model, here come another new ones...It's close to buying a latest DAC or a PC... good thing I'm neither a Magico nor a Wilson owner.
                    Fair enough. But whether it's evident or not, speaker design is undergoing a "quiet" revolution (NPI). New computer aided design, new materials for drivers, cabinets, new drivers, new measurement techniques, etc., etc. It's also interesting with the big companies how much of the machining and assembly (even of drivers) is now done in house allowing for much greater precision.

                    But put yourself in Alon's or Dave's shoes. Both are driven designers looking for perfection in their products. Especially Alon. And both recently had epiphanies. For Dave, it was the XLF; for Alon, it was the M-Projects with a side order of S7. For instance, the copper woofer coupling gaskets developed for the S7 found their way into the Q7 and other speakers now. The M-Projects had other innovations in the woofer, midrange and tweeter, xover and cabinet technology. BTW and last time we spoke, Alon considers the M-Projects his second best speaker next to the Q7). Or there is the internal midrange enclosure developed for the S3 that found its way into other speaker. New technology came out of both designs that both designers wanted to incorporate into new or existing designs. Moreso, it would seem to be a speaker that puts everything together. So what is their alternative?

                    Also, Alon was crushed with orders after people heard the M-Pros. But he had promised those who had committed to the speaker sight unheard that he would only make 50 pairs. No more, no less. So I suspect those who wanted the M-Projects will be first on board with this new speaker.

                    In the case, of Wilson, it seems to me to be a revamping of the speaker line. Some might be answer to say the Magico S1 = Sabrina at the entry level of the line (remember Alon will not just produce a speaker just to produce a speaker at a price point. On the other hand, when you look at his speakers, they deliver a lot of value for the money). And some of the other price points seem to be competitive with each others price points. I guess you can kinda add YG Acoustics in there too.
                    Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                    Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                    ________________________________________

                    -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                    -Goldmund Telos 300 stereo amp
                    -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                    -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                    -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                    -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                    -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                    -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                    -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
                    -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.1+ platforms.

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                    • #11
                      Welcome to the M3!

                      MAY, 2016—HAYWARD, CALIFORNIA USA
                      Magico M3

                      State of the Art Loudspeaker, Floor standing, 3-way (Five Driver) Design

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                      HAYWARD, CA – Magico, the leader in high performance loudspeaker design and manufacture, is pleased to announce the new M3.

                      The 2014 release of the M-Project provided a glimpse of the innovative designs and advanced technologies that were being developed at Magico. Since then, we have continued to develop and refine the concepts and vision introduced by the M-Project. The new Magico M3, picks up where the M-Project left off, and not only builds upon its legacy, but takes it several steps further. A new Carbon-fiber side panel design, an all- graphene midrange and bass driver design, a new driver coupling system and the phenomenal 28mm diamond coated beryllium tweeter, previously found only in the
                      M-Project, all come together in what is the most sophisticated loudspeaker we have ever created.

                      Magico is the world’s first manufacturer to utilize graphene in the development of a leading-edge loudspeaker cone design. Graphene has many extraordinary properties and is approximately 100 times stronger than the toughest steel. The newly designed Magico six-inch midrange and seven-inch bass driver cones found in the M3 are both manufactured from Multi-Wall carbon XG Nanographene and a new proprietary ultra-stiff carbon weave which is 20% lighter and 300% stiffer than the cone material used in previous Magico loudspeaker offerings. The underhung neodymium base motor system provides an ultra-stabilized magnetic field for the pure Titanium voice coil to operate within. This radical new driver design offers the lowest THD in the industry and sets the performance benchmark for others to aspire to.

                      The M3 midrange driver operates in a purpose built sub-enclosure made of a proprietary polymer that enhances midrange control and articulation. This sub-enclosure concept was first used in the S3 and is now applied to our more recent 3-way speaker designs. Three seven-inch M3 bass drivers are vertically aligned to achieve ideal room integration and reproduce the lowest registers of bass frequency with speed and accuracy. A solid copper gasket is applied between the driver’s chassis and enclosure to maximize the coupling effect and diffuse resonances between the two surfaces. The M3 bass drivers are optimized for minimal music related distortions in the frequency and time domain using the latest state-of-the-art FEA simulation of acoustics, mechanics, electromagnetic and thermal behavior. The testing process is now completed on a single platform allowing optimization levels to be taken to a higher level.

                      The M3 incorporates the diamond coated beryllium diaphragm tweeter (28-mm) used in the M-Project. The optimized geometry and the diamond coating on the beryllium aligns the acoustical properties closer to perfection without adding the extra weight of a full Diamond dome. This revolutionary tweeter design offers a near perfect weight to stiffness ratio that is unmatched in the industry. The new tweeter provides extra-long excursion movement and uses a neodymium based motor system that is customized to match the sensitivity and power handling capabilities of the M3 while maintaining ultra- wide dispersion characteristics and ultra-low distortion measurements. Click image for larger version

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                      The M3 incorporates the diamond coated beryllium diaphragm tweeter (28-mm) used in the M-Project. The optimized geometry and the diamond coating on the beryllium aligns the acoustical properties closer to perfection without adding the extra weight of a full Diamond dome. This revolutionary tweeter design offers a near perfect weight to stiffness ratio that is unmatched in the industry. The new tweeter provides extra-long excursion movement and uses a neodymium based motor system that is customized to match the sensitivity and power handling capabilities of the M3 while maintaining ultra- wide dispersion characteristics and ultra-low distortion measurements.

                      An internal three-axis matrix framework encapsulated in a sandwich Carbon-fiber skin, contributes to an extremely rigid yet damped enclosure and eliminates unwanted resonances and colorations, allowing all drivers to perform with stunning resolution and dynamics. All five drivers in the M3 are acoustically integrated using Magico’s exclusive Elliptical Symmetry Crossover topology.


                      Driver Complement
                      1 1” MBD28 Tweeter
                      1 6” MAG6004RTC Graphene Nano-Tec Midrange
                      3 7” MAG7012RTC Graphene Nano-Tec Bass
                      Specifications

                      Sensitivity: 91dB
                      Impedance: 4 Ohms Frequency Response: 24 Hz – 50 KHz
                      Recommended Power: 20 – 500 Watts
                      Dimensions 48”H x 19”D x 13”W (120cm x 49cm x 34cm)
                      Weight: 320 lbs. (145Kg)


                      SRP US $ 75,000.00 /pair
                      Shipping date – 3rd Quarter 2016

                      About Magico, LLC

                      Magico was created over a decade ago for the sole purpose of leading a no holds- barred assault on what is possible in contemporary loudspeaker design. Inspired by the unique vision of Industrial designer and accomplished musician Alon Wolf, every Magico product is designed against the true standard of perfect audio reproduction – live music. At Magico, we strive to lead in the creation, development, and manufacture of the most elegant and technologically advanced loudspeaker systems in the world. Each product expresses our passion to craft uncompromising devices that reveal the music as never before.

                      For more information please contact Peter Mackay, V.P. Global Sales at Magico LLC. Telephone: 1-510-649-9700, Ext 104 or visit us at www.magico.net

                      © 2016 MAGICO LLC 3 OF 3
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                      Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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                      -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                      -Goldmund Telos 300 stereo amp
                      -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                      -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                      -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                      -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                      -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                      -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                      -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
                      -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.1+ platforms.

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                      • #12
                        One more picture.
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                        Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                        Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                        ________________________________________

                        -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                        -Goldmund Telos 300 stereo amp
                        -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                        -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                        -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                        -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                        -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                        -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                        -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
                        -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.1+ platforms.

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                        • #13
                          Myles,

                          You know I am just stirring up the s___.


                          Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post

                          Fair enough. But whether it's evident or not, speaker design is undergoing a "quiet" revolution (NPI). New computer aided design, new materials for drivers, cabinets, new drivers, new measurement techniques, etc., etc. It's also interesting with the big companies how much of the machining and assembly (even of drivers) is now done in house allowing for much greater precision.

                          But put yourself in Alon's or Dave's shoes. Both are driven designers looking for perfection in their products. Especially Alon. And both recently had epiphanies. For Dave, it was the XLF; for Alon, it was the M-Projects with a side order of S7. For instance, the copper woofer coupling gaskets developed for the S7 found their way into the Q7 and other speakers now. The M-Projects had other innovations in the woofer, midrange and tweeter, xover and cabinet technology. BTW and last time we spoke, Alon considers the M-Projects his second best speaker next to the Q7). Or there is the internal midrange enclosure developed for the S3 that found its way into other speaker. New technology came out of both designs that both designers wanted to incorporate into new or existing designs. Moreso, it would seem to be a speaker that puts everything together. So what is their alternative?

                          Also, Alon was crushed with orders after people heard the M-Pros. But he had promised those who had committed to the speaker sight unheard that he would only make 50 pairs. No more, no less. So I suspect those who wanted the M-Projects will be first on board with this new speaker.

                          In the case, of Wilson, it seems to me to be a revamping of the speaker line. Some might be answer to say the Magico S1 = Sabrina at the entry level of the line (remember Alon will not just produce a speaker just to produce a speaker at a price point. On the other hand, when you look at his speakers, they deliver a lot of value for the money). And some of the other price points seem to be competitive with each others price points. I guess you can kinda add YG Acoustics in there too.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ki Choi View Post
                            Myles,

                            You know I am just stirring up the s___.

                            No but you had a valid point. It isn't the first time that criticism has been leveled. Remember when ARC had an update every six months?
                            Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                            Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                            ________________________________________

                            -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                            -Goldmund Telos 300 stereo amp
                            -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                            -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                            -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                            -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                            -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                            -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                            -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
                            -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.1+ platforms.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post

                              No but you had a valid point. It isn't the first time that criticism has been leveled. Remember when ARC had an update every six months?
                              I don't know what ARC's schedule is these days for upgrades and new products, but they do have a schedule. Rather disenchanting for those wanting to make a final purchase that won't be outdated any time soon, which I think is Ki's point.
                              Brian Walsh
                              ttsetup.com

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