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  • If You Had It To Do All Over Again....

    and price notwithstanding, would you choose the same speakers or switch?
    Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
    Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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    -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
    -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
    -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
    -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
    -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
    -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
    -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, Phasemation PP-500 cartridges
    -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
    -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
    -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

  • #2
    I'd do the same thing, other than perhaps giving up my original Dunlavy SC-IV for SC-V, and eventually coming back back to SC-IV again. The speakers no longer amaze, as I've had them in various forms for 20 years, but they do have their moments. What can I say; I'm happy. Especially, because just a few minutes ago I scored a Bendix rectifier that I've been looking for, but I digress....

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    • jonathanhorwich
      jonathanhorwich commented
      Editing a comment
      I used Dunlavy SC IVa's in my studio for years. They are nearly a perfect speaker minus one big drawback compared with modern speakers, they lack transparency and detail. Too big a fault to use in a studio but everything else (coherence, bass extension, etc.) were wonderful.

  • #3
    I'd stay in the Magico family for sure. MPros would be my bogey! I haven't heard anything that beats the MPro tweeter!
    Kronos Sparta -> Trinity Phono -> Trinity Pre -> CH Precision A1 -> Magico S7s

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    • #4
      I'm pretty happy with my Evolution Acoustics MM7's and have yet to hear something I'd rather have. not say there are not a number of great sounding speakers out there that I could not learn to love. I go to shows and hear various different 'uber' speakers and systems and get into the vibe of those speakers and many do impress. then I get back home and sit back and realize I have it all already.

      so I'd say that on my particular system/room track and degree of commitment I have no regrets or woulda-coulda's.
      https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/615

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      • #5
        One thing is for sure: Everytime I return home from an audio show, I'm never disappointed with the sound of my system. And having said that, "little" improvements continue to make it better. As MikeL likes to say, "Everything matters." We all have to operate in the arena we can afford to play in and you have to match your speakers to your room. Cramming massive loudspeakers into a shoebox sized room for instance is not a great idea. My NOLA KOs in conjunction with my pair of Def Tech Ref subs are a great match for my room and gear. Could I be taken to Nirvana by another pair of speakers in my room? I'm sure it's highly probable. Until you hear them in your room, you just don't know for sure. In the meantime, I know that I haven't heard everything the NOLA KOs are capable of because I keep hearing them sound better as I make other changes in my system. My new Ref 6 has taken my entire system to another level. The Viero speaker cables brought out more information in the KOs that was and is highly meaningful to me. I have a new rack in for review that was just delivered yesterday by the principals of Audio Vault and that has made a change for the better in the entire system.

        The bottom line is there are other speakers I would like to try in my room, but I don't know of any speakers that I have 100% confidence in that they would necessarily make a better fit into my room and system than my KOs. It's good to be happy when everything is paid for.
        Micro Seiki SX-8000 table with flywheel, SME 3012R arm, SME 312S arm, Lyra Etna SL and Dynavector XV-1S cartridges, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 tape deck, Ampex 350 repros, Roon Nucleus Plus server, PS Audio DSJ DAC, ARC Ref 6 pre, ARC Ref 75 amp, Parasound JC5 amp, JBL 4345 speakers, and Def Tech Ref subs.

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        • #6
          I have enjoyed the Vandersteen sound for many years. I have had several versions of the Model 2's and they have always been a great sound quality for the money choice. I do see a move up to the Treo CT's coming soon though.
          VPI Prime Signature with Ortofon Cadenza Bronze, Simaudio Moon 610LP Phono Pre, Luxman CL-38uC, MQ-88uC, DeVore O/93's, Cary DMS-700, Roon, AudioQuest Niagara 5000, Thunder Power cables, CastleRock speaker cables, MacKenzie interconnects and Diamond USB.

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          • #7
            Originally posted by longbowbbs View Post
            I have enjoyed the Vandersteen sound for many years. I have had several versions of the Model 2's and they have always been a great sound quality for the money choice. I do see a move up to the Treo CT's coming soon though.

            Vandy's have always had a warm spot in my heart. When it came down to choosing my first audiophile speaker it came down to the Vandy 2s vs. the Dahlquist DQ10s. The 10s won out because the Vandy's bass tended to break up back then. And check out the system used with the Vandys back in 1979! All Counterpoint tube electronics, SOTA turntable, ET-1 tonearm and AQ404 cartridge. The sound was mesmerizing for a newbie back then buying his first high-end audio system! And the store, American Audiophile in Lynbrook was still there last I heard. That's a long run for a high-end audio store.

            I think Andre here uses Vandys too if I'm not mistaken.
            Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
            Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
            ________________________________________

            -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
            -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
            -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
            -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
            -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
            -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
            -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, Phasemation PP-500 cartridges
            -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
            -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
            -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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            • #8
              Originally posted by allenh View Post
              I'd stay in the Magico family for sure. MPros would be my bogey! I haven't heard anything that beats the MPro tweeter!

              But you should be coming close.
              Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
              Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
              ________________________________________

              -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
              -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
              -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
              -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
              -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
              -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
              -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, Phasemation PP-500 cartridges
              -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
              -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
              -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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              • #9
                Originally posted by Mike Lavigne View Post
                I'm pretty happy with my Evolution Acoustics MM7's and have yet to hear something I'd rather have. not say there are not a number of great sounding speakers out there that I could not learn to love. I go to shows and hear various different 'uber' speakers and systems and get into the vibe of those speakers and many do impress. then I get back home and sit back and realize I have it all already.

                so I'd say that on my particular system/room track and degree of commitment I have no regrets or woulda-coulda's.
                I could understand your sentiments!

                You went through quite a few speakers on your journey to nirvana too!
                Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                ________________________________________

                -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
                -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, Phasemation PP-500 cartridges
                -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
                -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post


                  Vandy's have always had a warm spot in my heart. When it came down to choosing my first audiophile speaker it came down to the Vandy 2s vs. the Dahlquist DQ10s. The 10s won out because the Vandy's bass tended to break up back then. And check out the system used with the Vandys back in 1979! All Counterpoint tube electronics, SOTA turntable, ET-1 tonearm and AQ404 cartridge. The sound was mesmerizing for a newbie back then buying his first high-end audio system! And the store, American Audiophile in Lynbrook was still there last I heard. That's a long run for a high-end audio store.

                  I think Andre here uses Vandys too if I'm not mistaken.

                  I do enjoy Richard's speakers!
                  VPI Prime Signature with Ortofon Cadenza Bronze, Simaudio Moon 610LP Phono Pre, Luxman CL-38uC, MQ-88uC, DeVore O/93's, Cary DMS-700, Roon, AudioQuest Niagara 5000, Thunder Power cables, CastleRock speaker cables, MacKenzie interconnects and Diamond USB.

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                  • #11
                    As a business stand point, I've wasted a lot of money, made a lot of enemies and spent countless lost hours chasing the "holy grail". Wish I had just stuck with my gut and trusted my ears/measurements!

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                  • #12
                    Originally posted by Bruce B View Post
                    As a business stand point, I've wasted a lot of money, made a lot of enemies and spent countless lost hours chasing the "holy grail". Wish I had just stuck with my gut and trusted my ears/measurements!
                    For me it is ears first, measurements last.
                    VPI Prime Signature with Ortofon Cadenza Bronze, Simaudio Moon 610LP Phono Pre, Luxman CL-38uC, MQ-88uC, DeVore O/93's, Cary DMS-700, Roon, AudioQuest Niagara 5000, Thunder Power cables, CastleRock speaker cables, MacKenzie interconnects and Diamond USB.

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                    • #13
                      Originally posted by longbowbbs View Post
                      For me it is ears first, measurements last.
                      For me it's both, but I'm in the business of altering the frequency and tonal quality of music. I have to have a good base reference to start. If I have a system/room where the frequency response is deficient, I'm always having to compensate.

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                      • #14
                        Originally posted by Bruce B View Post

                        For me it's both, but I'm in the business of altering the frequency and tonal quality of music. I have to have a good base reference to start. If I have a system/room where the frequency response is deficient, I'm always having to compensate.

                        Do you use headphones at all to check your work so as to take the room out of the equation?
                        Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                        Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                        ________________________________________

                        -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                        -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
                        -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                        -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                        -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                        -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                        -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, Phasemation PP-500 cartridges
                        -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                        -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
                        -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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                        • #15
                          Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post


                          Do you use headphones at all to check your work so as to take the room out of the equation?
                          The only time I use headphones is in my restoration work where I need to hear artifacts buried in the music.
                          Trying to use headphones in mastering is a futile attempt since you don't have correct spatial cues.

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