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  • Glass Cabinet Speakers

    Lots of different materials have been used over the years to make speaker enclosures. Metal. Concrete. Wood. Wilson's composite X-material, etc. One that is a real curiosity is the special glass such as used by Perfect 8, Crystal Cable and Waterfall speakers. Even subs! Of course, the idea of glass like any material has to do with reduction of vibrations, cabinet shapes, etc. Anyone heard them and have any opinions?
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    Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
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  • #2
    shouldn't there be some sort of sound absorbing foam inside the cabinet? oh, wait, that would be ugly, even if it improved the sound.
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    • #3
      I have always assumed that these were created simply for (non-functional) demos at audio shows.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dsnyder0cnn
        I have always assumed that these were created simply for (non-functional) demos at audio shows.
        the ones shown are certainly non functional as there is no crossovers or wiring to the drivers
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        • #5
          repeat post
          Magnepan 1.6 QR Loudspeakers, Amherst A-2000 MOSFET 150 WPC Amp, Conrad Johnson PV-10A Modded Tube Line & Phono Stage, Electrocompaniet MC II Class A Head Amp, Audio Technica AT-OC9XML Cart (Stereo) , Graham Engineering 2.2 Tonearm (Stereo) , VPI Aries-1 Turntable (Stereo) , VPI Clamp, Denon DL-102 Cart, (Mono) , Luxman Tonearm (Mono) , Kenwood KD-500 Turntable (Mono) , Michell Clamp, Marantz 20B Analog FM Tuner, Pioneer SACD, Onkyo DX-6800 CD Transport, DIY 24B/192K DAC, Sennheiser HD-650 Headphones, Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp, DIY Silver Interconnects

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dsnyder0cnn
            I have always assumed that these were created simply for (non-functional) demos at audio shows.
            http://www.theaudiobeat.com/equipmen..._arabesque.htm

            I did hear the big Perfect 8s at a person's home but they weren't totally working correctly.
            Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
            Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
            ________________________________________

            -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
            -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
            -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
            -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
            -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
            -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
            -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
            -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
            -Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
            -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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            • #7
              Some nice big glass horns a few Lava lamps .

              I heard the perfect 8s at a show not bad .

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              • #8
                Have heard the P8s art quite a few shows, the size shown and the reference ones, and I have liked them very much particularly when paired with Ypsilon electronics.
                Turntable: TW Acustic TT with Ref motor & controller; Tri-Planar Arm; Transfiguration Proteus Cartridge (repaired and re-tipped by AnaMightySound), Massif Record Weight, PS Audio Stellar Phono Preamp; KLAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner.
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                • #9
                  Never heard them but will put out a few ideas.

                  It is certainly a means of product differentiation, always an important commercial consideration. I don't know which brand introduced the first such product or of any interrelationships between them, but there is sort of a "me too" flavor that glass would suddenly come into vogue. In comparison to some other materials glass is relatively inexpensive, readily available and easily worked.

                  As to whether the use of glass as an enclosure material contributes in a positive manner to the sound, no idea. Don't throw rocks however.

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                  • #10
                    They smell like a gimmick to me. What happens when you really crank them up and the cabinet shatters? I know, the Mfgr. tells you "you must have dropped it" no refund.
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                    • #11
                      Only heard them at CES, not the best place to draw conclusions but the bass was very disjointed from the rest of the speaker, was too tight and lacked definition. I thought that it was turned up too high too but the designer disagreed with me and was very proud of the bass.
                      david
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by david k
                        Only heard them at CES, not the best place to draw conclusions but the bass was very disjointed from the rest of the speaker, was too tight and lacked definition. I thought that it was turned up too high too but the designer disagreed with me and was very proud of the bass.
                        david
                        Yeah you are spot on. The woofers, that were a brand new product then--as were the xoves and cables--just didn't integrate with the rest of Leon's speakers. Plus Lloyd was always fooling with the SRA on the table and one time went in, geometry was totally off. We finally got it close after a bit of work. And the room was way too big for the speakers. They should have set the speaker up at one end of the room rather than in the middle IMHO.
                        Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                        Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                        ________________________________________

                        -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                        -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
                        -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                        -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                        -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                        -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                        -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
                        -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                        -Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
                        -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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                        • david k
                          david k commented
                          Editing a comment
                          It was just as bad in their own room, they were using the same speaker in your small picture above.

                      • #13
                        Originally posted by JCOConnell
                        They smell like a gimmick to me. What happens when you really crank them up and the cabinet shatters? I know, the Mfgr. tells you "you must have dropped it" no refund.
                        Why should they shatter? It's not ordinary glass. Not to mention we have bulletproof glass and many other variations that can take extreme pressure eg. bathyscapes, etc.
                        Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                        Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                        ________________________________________

                        -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                        -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
                        -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                        -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                        -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                        -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                        -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
                        -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                        -Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
                        -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by MylesBAstor

                          Why should they shatter? It's not ordinary glass. Not to mention we have bulletproof glass and many other variations that can take extreme pressure eg. bathyscapes, etc.
                          OK, its a special glass. It still smells like a gimmick to me.
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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by JCOConnell

                            OK, its a special glass. It still smells like a gimmick to me.
                            I still don't understand JC.

                            What is the function of the speaker cabinet? Not that unlike a tonearm/cartridge. To hold the drivers motionless and absorb vibrations that might otherwise affect the sound. Just on either ends of the system. So not only can glass offer some advantages in terms of vibrations and their decay characteristics but also you can shape the cabinet in ways you can't with wood or metal to address standing waves inside the cabinet, etc.
                            Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                            Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                            ________________________________________

                            -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                            -Goldmund Telos 440 and 1000 Nextgen mono amps
                            -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                            -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                            -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                            -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                            -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, vdh Colibri Master Signature, Mutech Hayabusa,
                            -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                            -Assorted cables including Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna, Audience FrontRow; Audience FrontRow, Genesis Advanced Technologies , Goldmund and Ensemble Power Cords
                            -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.3+ platforms.

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