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    So a good friend is gone to Hong Kong for the winter, and I borrowed his Viola Labs Cadenza preamp. This thing is so wonderfully detailed, it makes music instruments literally chiselled in the air. The amount of detail that I get out of it is tremendous. I did notice one very interesting thing. The preamp has adjustable line level gain - up to +16db per channel. Since I have inefficient speakers (Kharma db9-s), I do need as much gain from the preamp as possible. Cranking the overall gain up to +16db, I listen comfortably at realistic volume at around 12o'clock on the dial (for vinyl). However, when I take the gain down to about +10db, and actually crank up the volume to about 2:30pm on the volume knob, the sound gets to be the same loudness level, but the amount of detail to my ears is *better*. Paul Jayson of Viola Labs did a great job in creating this unit. It makes my VAC preamp sound almost 'broken'. I will really really miss this preamp when my friend comes back to Toronto... I am attaching some pics of the Cadenza preamp, and my system...

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    Beautiful setup geeky. Tell your friend you were robbed while he was gone and they only stole his preamp and he needs to buy another one.
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      mep Right on - friendship has to stop somewhere dammit...

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        I heard some Viola Labs with Kharmas when I was in SF last summer, and then again in the fall at TAVES. A very nice pairing indeed!
        Kronos Sparta -> Trinity Phono -> Trinity Pre -> CH Precision A1 -> Magico S7s

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        • #5
          allenh are you from Toronto? The Kharma speakers that you heard at TAVES, are the exact pair that I ended up buying from Audio Eden in Aurora (shout out to them!!).

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          • #6
            Originally posted by geekyaleks View Post
            allenh are you from Toronto? The Kharma speakers that you heard at TAVES, are the exact pair that I ended up buying from Audio Eden in Aurora (shout out to them!!).

            Sweet! They threw a real nice soundstage at TAVES even though the room was oddly shaped.

            I'm not from Toronto, but we may have a few friends in common: Paul, Mark, Rick? I know them pretty well. I think Rick posted a pic of your room on FB recently? And I heard the Kharmas at Michael Woods' shop in San Francisco. He was at TAVES in the Kharma room.
            Kronos Sparta -> Trinity Phono -> Trinity Pre -> CH Precision A1 -> Magico S7s

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              allenh These are all names that I am familiar with . Many of my audio buddies are here at our web site...

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                Richard Mak. He goes by Rick. Great guy!
                Kronos Sparta -> Trinity Phono -> Trinity Pre -> CH Precision A1 -> Magico S7s

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                • geekyaleks
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                  Ricky is awesome - I have known him for about 14 years or so... One of the nicest and most generous people I know...

                • allenh
                  allenh commented
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                  Aleks, totally agree! I've learned a lot from him as well.

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                Viola makes some nice gear. Of course, Paul worked at one time at Cello Electronics with Tom Colangelo. When Cello went under, Paul formed Viola and Jim McCullough kept Cello alive but far under the radar. I've seen some pictures from Asia too where Genesis Advanced Tech speakers were paired with Viola electronics. I also think Gary used Viola at shows here; Allen Sides of Oceanway speakers also uses Viola with his speakers at shows.
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                • #10
                  Originally posted by geekyaleks View Post
                  So a good friend is gone to Hong Kong for the winter, and I borrowed his Viola Labs Cadenza preamp. This thing is so wonderfully detailed, it makes music instruments literally chiselled in the air. The amount of detail that I get out of it is tremendous. I did notice one very interesting thing. The preamp has adjustable line level gain - up to +16db per channel. Since I have inefficient speakers (Kharma db9-s), I do need as much gain from the preamp as possible. Cranking the overall gain up to +16db, I listen comfortably at realistic volume at around 12o'clock on the dial (for vinyl). However, when I take the gain down to about +10db, and actually crank up the volume to about 2:30pm on the volume knob, the sound gets to be the same loudness level, but the amount of detail to my ears is *better*. Paul Jayson of Viola Labs did a great job in creating this unit. It makes my VAC preamp sound almost 'broken'. I will really really miss this preamp when my friend comes back to Toronto... I am attaching some pics of the Cadenza preamp, and my system...

                  Does the Viola have the phono card in it and how does vinyl reply sound through it vs. the Zesto? btw, I like your nixie tube clock.
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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post
                    Viola makes some nice gear. Of course, Paul worked at one time at Cello Electronics with Tom Colangelo. When Cello went under, Paul formed Viola and Jim McCullough kept Cello alive but far under the radar. I've seen some pictures from Asia too where Genesis Advanced Tech speakers were paired with Viola electronics. I also think Gary used Viola at shows here; Allen Sides of Oceanway speakers also uses Viola with his speakers at shows.
                    If I were to move away from the European brands I use so much now, Viola would be that brand. Neutral, fast, and linear.
                    Kronos Sparta -> Trinity Phono -> Trinity Pre -> CH Precision A1 -> Magico S7s

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by allenh View Post

                      If I were to move away from the European brands I use so much now, Viola would be that brand. Neutral, fast, and linear.
                      i think ack copyrighted that tag line...in all seriousness you would have to include Spectral. I'm a tube kinda guy but the few Spectral pieces I've had in my system questioned my allegiance. Viola has been in my conscientiousness but the distribution is limited where can you hear it?
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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by Rob View Post

                        i think ack copyrighted that tag line...in all seriousness you would have to include Spectral. I'm a tube kinda guy but the few Spectral pieces I've had in my system questioned my allegiance. Viola has been in my conscientiousness but the distribution is limited where can you hear it?
                        I was never a Spectral fan, having heard some Spectral gear at Goodwins with the Q7MkIs. Sounded flat and grey to me. Then heard more Spectral (model unknown again) at Overture's in DE on the then new S3s. Wow, what a difference! Nuanced, 3D, tonal color! But the thing about Spectral is I think you still need to use MIT cables? Meh. (My brother-in-law uses a DMA-180(?) with his Maggies - holy sh*t, talk about fast!).

                        Back to Viola. Actually first time I heard Viola was in a shop was in SF, Elite AV. Michael Woods is the owner, a real gentleman. How far is that from you, Rob? Elite has both CHP and Viola in fact.
                        Kronos Sparta -> Trinity Phono -> Trinity Pre -> CH Precision A1 -> Magico S7s

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                        • Rob
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                          SF is 500 miles away, not happening for me. If it was L.A or San Diego I would.
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