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  • MylesBAstor
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    Yup. If it doesn’t sound good at low volume, then playing it louder isn’t going to help.

  • wisnon
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    Funny story.

    Went to a show years ago to hear a system that I was curious about. The brand sent an Agency to run their room for them and I brought my own music on ripped CDs and usb sticks. I asked the lady to play some of my stuff and she gave me major attitude. I waited a bit and then went out and came back a few mins later. This time I asked the gentleman and he acquiesced. After about 10 minutes, the room (up to then with only a few stragglers) quickly got filled up with showgoers, attracted to my demo music like flies to honey.

    The ROTFLMAO part is the same snooty lady basically backed me in a corner and said I could not leave with the music and I should name my price! She said it was absolutely necessary to have such music for them to make the room a success for the weekend, and this was only Friday with 2 more days to go after that!

    I told her that this was not stuff for sale, but I could give them a copy digitally on their Mac. You should have seen the relief on her face. So funny given her stance like 40 mins earlier when she barely deigned to talk to me.

    Moral of the story, great demo tracks is the exhibitors friend and showgoers often have the BEST stuff.
    Last edited by wisnon; 10-24-2017, 08:35 AM.

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  • Kingrex
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    Myles or others, are any who went to Rockey Mountain going to post some perspectives on the gear you saw. Thanks.

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  • Skylab
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    I guess this is one area where it’s really good not to be a reviewer I go to audio shows (mostly Axpona these days though I have been to RMAF before) because I enjoy the heck out of listening to and seeing audio gear I’ve never seen before, and I always bring my own music on both CD and USB drive. But I’m not there to shop - I’m totally happy with my two systems and not in the market for anything new unless something breaks or someone finally does begin serious production of a new reel to reel. My only shopping at shows is usually software. So if I get to hear music I know, that’s awesome, but it’s not critical.

    That said, what really does irk me is when my buddies and I are the ONLY ones in a room, and we make a request, and the guy doing the demo STILL won’t play it. This happened several times at Axpona last year. If the room has a lot of people I can understand, but when my group are the only ones in the room...then I truly don’t get it. Most of the time though exhibitors are very accommodating.

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  • Slowgeezr
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    Agreed! I didn't even go into one room because it was so loud.

  • Alrainbow
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    I am not a reviewer nor someone who claims to know what is right or wrong
    I am bored by anolog in that I don’t know what’s playing mosly and don’t really know if its a good pressing or not
    my only comparison is to digtal you know the antichrist of Audio.
    I always bring my ref tracks to shows and how else can anyone know what’s good or not for sure. But for me I can walk into a room and know if its good for me in digital
    not really analog unless it’s something I know
    Eiasly is it so. And oddly if it is I feel my digital is better lol.
    Ypu mat feel I am ride or an ass. What I really am is someone who knows what I like and don’t.
    Shows mostly don’t have good
    sound to me but there are some speakers that do seem to
    sound right.
    What shows should do for you guys is have a time for you
    even if in groups. I would think this is mandatory for u
    As for how loud ur right but I think it’s rude to ask unless it’s for you alone after all many feel louder is better even though it’s not for us.
    If you guys bring your vinyl it should be played proudly after all you did not bring shit u brought reference to show off with.

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  • 1morerecord2clean
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    Completely agree. I was really unhappy at one of the Newport shows a few years ago. Non-stop talking including the room rep. Seemed to be particularly bad that year and was less so in successive years thankfully.

  • rbbert
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    I think that for better or worse many audiophiles are using shows to audition equipment; with the decline of brick and mortar stores in many markets, this is the only opportunity to audition a wide range of equipment. More and more manufacturers seem to realize this and appear to be trying harder to make the show experience worthwhile. That’s not as much of a problem as people eliminating products for consideration because of bad reviews (on-line or in print) of rooms at audio shows.

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  • mkuller
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    My favorite part about attending audio shows (in the 1990s and 2000s) was hearing new music I hadn't heard before. Very few people brought their own music. Occasionally I would hear a speaker that impressed me but I didn't really take show sound too seriously back then. Some crowded rooms, annoying people, too loud music, etc. Usually the other reviewers would be buzzing about one speaker or another so I would make sure to listen in those rooms before the show was over. If it sounds good under show conditions, it probably sounds good. If not, it could be for any number of reasons. Seems people take show sound much more seriously today and attempt critical evaluations.
    Last edited by mkuller; 10-09-2017, 07:17 PM.

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  • Steve Lefkowicz
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    Another issue at shows is people who won't stop talking during a demo. I can't think of how many times over the years I've had to ask other people to either be quiet or to take their conversation into the hallway when I finally my chance to sit in the sweet spot. It's even worse when the person doing the talking is the person actually running the demo. I've had no issue asking them to quiet down, too!

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  • Steve Lefkowicz
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    Too many rooms at shows play too loudly. It is always okay to ask them to turn the volume down.

  • stellavox
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    Hi Myles,

    Rant 2:

    Do have to say that at this RMAF I finally had the nerve to ask some of the exhibitors to please TURN DOWN the volume, as it was either overloading the room - or my ears. And in all cases they did - at least on Friday - but I gave up on Saturday as there were too many of them - so I either didn't go into the room, or spent maybe 15 seconds there.

    (Old Fart) Charles

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  • 1morerecord2clean
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    Myles, I think I have said on this site that I rarely take music with me to shows. It is just something I have to carry on the plane, doesn’t fit under the seat easily, and I know I will be bringing more records home as well. I would never place final judgement based on any show demo on a room or piece of gear. It is silly to do that. How many times have I heard the exact same system at two different shows and walked away from the demo with a different opinion? You cannot under the best of show circumstances form a final opinion about the combo of gear you are hearing.

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  • Socrates
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    I was told it is the fear of Virus on the USB/Flash drives

    Soc

  • Steve Lefkowicz
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    Excellent rant, Myles! If rooms won't play my requests or the music I bring to a show, I usually leave them out of my show report, or at least make no mention of the sound quality in the room.

    True that most rooms are more likely to play a request if it comes from a reviewer/writer/journalist than some unknown attendee, but that should change.

    I still think one of the best parts of my exhibit at the LA Audio Show was that I played almost exclusively requests from whoever asked. And rarely did people leave because of it. They knew if they stuck around their request would get played too. I was delighted at how much new music I heard that I was unfamiliar with, in spite of the fact that most of the older attendees requested the same tired list of audiophile favorites I tried to avoid. However, even that worked out well, as again, the aim was to play what people wanted wanted to hear, not what I thought would make for a good demo.

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