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  • Does Any Company Make A Computer Worth a Damn?

    People would be screaming bloody murder if their high-end audio equipment had the reliability of today's laptop computer's. Absolute pieces of junk.

    Let's look at their track record here.

    MacBook Pro: 7 months and hard disc drive fried.
    My Dell about four years ago: hard disc fried after a year.
    Wife's Asus: Battery leaked, computer is now a boat anchor.
    My 6 month old Toshiba: 6 months old and it's gone for 3 weeks to see if motherboard or battery issue. Blinking light was a fault warning, not sleep mode it turns out.

    This stuff is being made more and more cheaply and are total junk.

    Geek Squad is a racket. They know this junk will fail and have ready made business handed to them.
    Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
    Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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  • #2
    Go listen to some music Myles, no getting around the cheap computers.

    i will say my 2012 vintage MacBook Pro 17 after the initial hard drive crash and replacement has been trouble free.
    Last edited by nc42acc; 06-11-2016, 07:58 PM.
    Marty

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    • #3
      damn myles you have no luck at all lol. now hardrives that spin are bad . so bad they do not last long but the goos die is if they get past a few months thell last years . the ss drive are hit and miss too . if they go for a while all is good save your recs .
      also when are we getting spell check please I am a retard and need help .
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      • #4
        I recommend Lenovo - which builds what was the IBM Thinkpad. It's a working person's laptop.
        As to desktops, I've always built my own. Much of what's available from vendors such as HP or Dell are commodities good for four to five years.
        Last edited by tima; 06-12-2016, 03:22 AM.

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        • #5
          I don't trust the quality either, so I just don't invest any money. My last desktop cost $200 new (acer).
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          • #6
            Typical consumer products are built to a very low price point and it shows. My desktop replacement large laptop is a pretty much top of the line Dell purchased about ten years ago for business use to run AutoCAD, Project Manager, Excel etc. Also plays blu-rays. Still works fine.

            I'd say get away from the purely consumer stuff and get into a business/pro model. HP makes a line of higher end business laptops not sold in big box stores as does lenova.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post
              People would be screaming bloody murder if their high-end audio equipment had the reliability of today's laptop computer's. Absolute pieces of junk.

              Let's look at their track record here.

              MacBook Pro: 7 months and hard disc drive fried.
              My Dell about four years ago: hard disc fried after a year.
              Wife's Asus: Battery leaked, computer is now a boat anchor.
              My 6 month old Toshiba: 6 months old and it's gone for 3 weeks to see if motherboard or battery issue. Blinking light was a fault warning, not sleep mode it turns out.

              This stuff is being made more and more cheaply and are total junk.

              Geek Squad is a racket. They know this junk will fail and have ready made business handed to them.
              Must have been that rap music running through the USB port :-)

              I've had great luck with Macbook pro's...but try the SSD drive vs spinning disk...

              Recently was in a airport. Bought a bottle of water...took a sip, laid it horizontal on my laptop bag between the handles...walked to my other gate. Water bottle empty. huh? Then to my horror...my Macbook was enjoying a cool swim in about 2 inches of water inside the laptop bag....it still works.
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              • #8
                Dell xps 9000 desktop purchased a long time ago. 16 g ram, i7 quad core 2.80 ghz the only thing that has failed is the c drive and that was due to power spikes,. Replaced the C and D with a western and added a APC Battery Backup and all is well.
                Chris
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                • #9
                  The only problem I've ever had was a burned-out fan on a Dell Inspiron desktop. That was 3 years ago and it's still going strong. I've had both consumer & business models from IBM, Toshiba, Compaq, HP and Dell. I've also been both a casual and power user. I'm using a Dell inspiron (17") 5000 series i7 laptop and it's been great. I usually buy a new one every 3-4 years.
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                  • #10
                    I use all Dell desktops in my office. They keep getting smaller and cheaply built but they always seem to make it to the end of the warranty.
                    Marty

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                    • #11
                      I have a 1997 sony Vaio the first of the all in ones still running in one of my sales offices.

                      Myles is your cat telling you to change the cat litter more often with all these melt downs

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                      • #12
                        Take a look at my hand-built PC - built like a tank, performance is extra-ordinary http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showth...nd-photography

                        Yes, I know, it's not for everyone
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                        • #13
                          When it comes to a desktop PC, I need a turnkey solution, not a build it yourself project as I don't have the technical prowess to troubleshoot PC hardware software and firmware.
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                          • #14
                            When I started my ripping project, my consultant Tim Marutani recommended I get a computer custom made (a PC running XP Pro with a Zalman fanless case, SS Drives and special cards) to complement the Mykerinos Sound Card. I am not handy in those sorts of things so Tim had Chris Connaker put the computer together (that was in the early days of Computer Audiophile when Chris had the time). A trustworthy person who understands what your needs are is well worth the added cost. I ended up using the computer for 6 years, 300+ days a year, 24h a day. It still is going, but I don't have to use it much these days except for some occasional playback.

                            Larry

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                            • #15
                              I've tried to stay away from Mac's when it comes to music production. On the professional side, if a laptop goes down, it can cost you more than $$.
                              Plus, most of the manufacturers write music production software mainly for Win based machines.
                              That being said, I've relied mostly on Toshiba/IBM and Dell business laptops. Haven't failed me yet!!

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