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  • Dumb or Not Move?

    I vote the former.

    For the first time in 25 years, Ford will manufacture vehicles without the traditional CD player in favor of streaming, starting with the 2018 EcoSport.
    Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
    Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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  • #2
    I've used this CD player in my Ford C-Max once since I bought it four years. It's preferable to just let the music flow from my phone in shuffle mode.
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    • #3
      After talking to Al and listening to tracks, which Alrainbow posted, I believe that CD's are quaint and headed for extinction.
      I decided over 40 years ago that I was not anal enough to maintain vinyl in good condition. Thanks to Al, I now know, I have made the correct decision for me.

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      • #4
        The overwhelming majority of rental vehicles I have had over the past few years have lacked CD payers, although few of them have been Fords. I still prefer to have a CD player, but can easily make do without
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        • #5
          Originally posted by MylesBAstor View Post
          I vote the former.
          I would want it. I had to spec it in my 2017 sports car build. A free option but not standard.
          Christian
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          • #6
            It never hurts to have the option of slipping in a CD
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            • #7
              With Sirius / XM radio available in most cars I really don't miss the CD player, for me its been that way for the past 15 years or so......I have no issues if all the car manufactures were to remove them and they became a option. When in the car I enjoy listening to other things besides music, I enjoy the Comedy stations, Sports and some News from time to time.
              Jeff Whitlock
              A/V Solutions

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              • mep
                mep commented
                Editing a comment
                Satellite radio has terrible sound quality. I would say that AM radios from the 1950s-1960s sounded way better. Car audio has gone in the wrong direction with regards to SQ.

              • MylesBAstor
                MylesBAstor commented
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                And Howard Stern and the Playboy station.

              • jfrech
                jfrech commented
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                Mep, +1

            • #8
              I agree.....but its better than just listening to the roar of the engine and road noise
              Jeff Whitlock
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              • Johnny Vinyl
                Johnny Vinyl commented
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                Colour me guilty then. I don't even turn the radio on or listen to a CD.

            • #9
              Last three cars I bought -
              2003 Ford Explorer had both Cassette and CD
              2006 Chevy HHR had CD player and AUX input.
              2016 Kia Soul (great daily commuter) AUX, USB and Bluetooth. That's the best setup so far. I use the AUX input with my Questyle QP1 and the USB input for my iPod Classic. Bluetooth works great with the iPhone.
              Steve Lefkowicz
              Senior Associate Editor at Positive Feedback
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              • #10
                I bought a Kenwood car stereo with CD player and usb port for a hundred bucks. for my ancient Honda.
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                • #11
                  I haven't used a CD player in my car in ages (although my wife still does in hers with music and books). I much prefer my iPod connected to the auto sound system (with 6400 songs in Lossless). I doubt the younger generation is using CDs.
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                  • mep
                    mep commented
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                    Digital audio and specifically satellite radio killed the SQ of car audio. Does anyone make a car stereo capable of decoding DSD natively?

                  • Steve Lefkowicz
                    Steve Lefkowicz commented
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                    That's true with satellite. We let our Sirus XM account expire. It was dreadful sound quality on every station we tried.

                • #12
                  I think the CD died long ago (as far as cars go). My big problem now is that new cars will likely not have in system support for the now also dead iPod classic. The trend appears to be a total move to bluetooth.

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                  • mep
                    mep commented
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                    And Bluetooth audio is just horrendous.

                  • mkuller
                    mkuller commented
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                    My car is a 2015 and has a USB port which is great.

                • #13
                  When I leave my audiophile hat at home car audio is more tolorable......
                  Jeff Whitlock
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