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  • What Has Learning To Play An Instrument Taught Me?

    Among other things, there's no such thing as a mono and stereo era when it comes to music. πŸ˜‰
    Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
    Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
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  • #2
    Started playing piano when I was 9. Went on to get a B.A. in Music Ed. Then I went into the medical field so I could afford my addiction!!

    When CD's were first introduced, I could never listen to a digitally recorded piano. Nothing sounded like the way a piano sounds. This led me on the mission to take those digital recordings and try to manipulate the sound to make it more "real". That's when I first went into mastering.

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    • #3
      Trying for years to learn to play an instrument taught me I am far better off playing my stereo and letting people who know how to do it play the music...
      Steve Lefkowicz
      Senior Associate Editor at Positive Feedback
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      • #4
        I learned at an early age that I had no talent for playing any instrument after taking piano, flute and guitar lessons. The good thing is that those talented musicians need people like me who worship them and buy their music.
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        • #5
          I learned that I should NEVER attempt to sing.
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          • #6
            Bruce B is so right. There is music and then there is the music business. Much better to find gainful employment outside of the music biz and enjoy music from your listening chair be it in front of your stereo or in the concert hall. A hard learned music lesson.
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            • #7
              There is a pretty good book worth reading whether or not you play -- it's called 'The Perfect Wrong Note.' Although it focuses on piano as the primary instrument, the premise- striving for repeatable, errorless playing of passages as one builds skill and familiarity with a piece- is in the author's estimation, a bad way to learn (aside from robbing the performance of vitality by a robotic like method). The author's approach- which could be taken as a sort of zen-like attitude toward all things-- is go with your mistakes-- you learn why you are veering off course, and also learn how to recover quickly. It teaches you more about your interaction with the instrument and the music.
              I started playing very young. Traditional beat it into you type lessons. Hated it. Only learned to love it when I escaped from the institution.

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              • 1morerecord2clean
                1morerecord2clean commented
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                You can't learn to play any instrument via a shortcut. I still see late night infomercials for learning to play the guitar or the piano in ten easy lessons. It's ridiculous. Learning to play is like anything. A long arduous process. It isn't for most people. That's why there are so many guitars and drums in closets growing moldy. A little talent helps also but most people don't have much in that department. So in short if you can't read music fairly well, don't know key signatures, and can't count then you will be eternally frustrated by learning to play. Heck, even the best players in the world have some things they can do well and things they have to work at.

              • MylesBAstor
                MylesBAstor commented
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                Wrong note is one thing and can even work in some situations. Screwing up the rhythm. Dats a whole 'nuther thing! πŸ˜€

            • #8
              That's a good one Bill. I also enjoyed this one:

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              • #9
                lemme see. Four yrs private tutor who tried valiantly to teach me at least a modest proficiency with the piano. Started at age 8. Then came band in school; grade school thru high school. Instrument was trumpet. (my choice) In retrospect, what the overall experience taught me was not to quit my day job.

                -Steve
                webmaster at The Analog Dept.
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                • 1morerecord2clean
                  1morerecord2clean commented
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                  The story of Maurice Andre is that he had only been taking lessons for a short time when his teacher jokingly told him to go home and in two weeks to come back after practicing all the Characteristic Studies at the end of the Arban Method Book. He did. Don't know how accurate that story is but I have heard it a number of times from various players. The writer/director Garson Canin told a story many years ago that he originally started out as a pretty good clarinetist. He was playing in a pit band for a Broadway show when a young kid named Benny Goodman sat down next to him and after ten seconds of hearing him warm up Canin realized he had better find another profession. That's the way it is.

              • #10
                I learned that there is math in music

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                • RandyRobinson
                  RandyRobinson commented
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                  I wonder why that is? I started with drums and piano in grade school and did excel in math. The math I was thinking of was time signature related as well as repetitions of 8 bar groupings for jazz and rock, 8 or 12 for blues. Before I understood that, the thought of stringing notes together without structure was mind boggling.

                • MylesBAstor
                  MylesBAstor commented
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                  I think the other thing is that there are many music/math majors. Take the late Bob Reina who was a math/music major at MIT.

                • Bruce B
                  Bruce B commented
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                  Being a music major felt it prepared me better for those difficult anesthesia calculations!! Plus, I had the best music in the operating room!!

              • #11
                I learned I have a natural inability to play guitar.
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                • #12
                  I gave all three kids he chance to learn hiw to play something
                  first two nothing
                  my ten year old has been playing for 4 years now. Can read and write music. Plays ok too no prodogy lol.
                  Also palys the trumpet too.
                  Regarding piano it's one of the most difficult to playback on a digital. Until I bought my first Msb dac. At the time my kid was playing a real piano in our home. Even with the Msb there was simply no realisism
                  when we moved I boigjt him a hi end korg. My system now sounds good lol.
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                  kenwood direct drive sme ver 2 arm
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                  • #13
                    I really appreciate how good professional musicians are! Larry
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                    • MylesBAstor
                      MylesBAstor commented
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                      Truer words have not been spoken!

                  • #14
                    I know I tend to be cerebral at times but in this case was referring to how my record collection starts with the stereo era. I generally don't listen to mono recording. Yet most of the jazz stuff we've been playing definitely goes back to the early '50s and mono era. Take the latest Clifford Brown composition "Sandu" from the mid-50s.
                    Myles B. Astor, PhD, Administrator
                    Senior Editor, Positive-Feedback.com
                    ________________________________________

                    -Zellaton Plural Evo speakers
                    -Goldmund Telos 300 stereo amp
                    -Goldmund Mimesis 37S Nextgen preamplifier
                    -Doshi EVO and Goldmund PH3.8 phonostage
                    -VPI Vanquish direct-drive turntable
                    -VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy dual pivot tonearm, VPI 12-inch 3D Fat Boy gimballed and SAT LM-12 arm
                    -Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, Fuuga Mk. 2, vdh Colibri Master Signature, MutechHayabusa, MOFI Master Tracker, Sumiko Songbird cartridges
                    -Technics RS1506 with Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi V3.0 tape stage (balanced)
                    -Assorted cables including Transparent XL Gen. 6, Skogrand, Viero, Kubala-Sosna, Audience Au24SX, Genesis Advanced Technologies and Ensemble Power Cords
                    -Accessories including Stillpoint Aperture panels, Cathedral Sound panels, Furutech NCF Nano AC receptacles; Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC, Symposium ISIS and SRA Craz 3 racks, Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Symposium Ultra and assorted SRA OHIO Class 2.1+ platforms.

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                    • #15
                      I learned:

                      - how to read music and notation;
                      - how to follow a conductor and to work with others in my section;
                      - what every other orchestral instrument sounds like up close and in ensemble;
                      - the value of practice;
                      - what it is like performing in recital on your own;
                      - what it is like being challenged by another musician for your chair;
                      - that playing an instrument (piano, clarinet) was the single most relaxing activity I could find.

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